THE WARSONG UPDATE: NEW UNSEEDED RULES
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THE WARSONG UPDATE: NEW UNSEEDED RULES
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Hey all, we've created another split in the leaderboards. Runs performed on v0.110656 and onwards are currently denoted by the subcategory "Warsong Update".

Please do not submit new runs to the "Olympic Update" subcategory. You may still submit old runs that were performed on the previous release.

The default variable for submissions will now be "Warsong Update".

As a reminder, new runs must be played on the most recent live version of Hades II available at the time, as per the Game Rules. This may be reevaluated at a later date.

Rules Update

With this patch comes the addition of the cauldron incantation Acceptance of Another Fate. This allows Melinoe to salute the Oath of the Unseen to reroll the starting seed of the run. It becomes available after defeating the 4th Guardian of the Underworld & Surface routes 7 times each, among some other requirements.

After reviewing and testing its mechanics, we are confident that this suits the requirements for an unseeded speedrun. Starting in this patch, you no longer are required to show a death before your run, as long as you use this new feature instead. Your run video must contain the visual of saluting and the doors up/down getting the "reroll" icon, visible here: ().

Salute can be rebound in the controls menu if you do not currently have it bound. If you do not show this sequence, and do not show a death, your run will be considered seeded.

Updated rule text for unseeded runs:

Unseeded Rules

Show, in your video, prior to the run's start: the previous run's death; a run completion with a "death" after victory; or, if the Acceptance of Another Fate incantation is unlocked, Melinoë saluting the Oath of the Unseen at the start of the video. For an example of the salute method, view here:

Previous rule text for unseeded runs:

Unseeded Rules

Show the previous run's death (or a run completion with the death) at the start of the video.

Regarding Boon Boon Boon

Echo's reward Boon Boon Boon offers the player a choice of 3 boons they had during the previous Night. With the current way the seed reroll works, it will not reset Boon Boon Boon offerings. This means that a previous run can be "setup" to guarantee certain offerings from Boon Boon Boon. After some discussion within the verification team, it was decided to allow salute seed rerolling despite this.

It is not set in stone, and action may be taken on this in the future if the community decides it is unhealthy for competition to allow this. Because the game is still in early access and likely has multiple board wipes in its future, we are allowing this to mature on its own for the time being. If you would like to discuss potential abuses or future mitigating rules, please do so in the designated discussion thread in the discord.

Regarding the Argent Skull Buff & Nerf

In the past few days, Supergiant pushed a couple of patches that buffed the Argent Skull so significantly that they reverted the changes very quickly in a new patch. The verification team has decided not to make a mid-patch split to ensure that runs on this version are stored separately. Patch version will still be recorded, so if the community decides overwhelmingly that for the posterity of this Major Update's leaderboard these runs should not be included, we can always address it later. If you would like to discuss this decision (we serve the community so any ruling decision can be reversed!), please do so in the designated discussion thread in the discord.

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THE WARSONG UPDATE: NEW UNSEEDED RULES

Hey all, we've created another split in the leaderboards. Runs performed on v0.110656 and onwards are currently denoted by the subcategory "Warsong Update".

Please do not submit new runs to the "Olympic Update" subcategory. You may still submit old runs that were performed on th

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