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Pakistanyamini9813 years ago

I know this is an issue that many speedrun games and moderators find a huge headache (probably the reason there was no emulator category in the first place) but this time I did the work for the mods so they don't have to waste as much time.

Before commenting make sure to watch the following video:

So after watching the video what are you guys thoughts? Should 'Enable Fast CDVD' be allowed for everyone?

Something I forgot to mention in the video is that I believe is that if this rule is changed, then Volpescu's tournament runs should be taken off of the leaderboard because it is impossible to get that good of a time without the 'Enable Fast CDVD' (at least in World Tournament, and he has a large advantage in the other tournaments as well). Reminder that this is nothing against Volpescu, but rather to make the game more fair for everyone.

Also one more thing to add is I think that if you want a really good time you should shift towards the Wii emulator due to the faster loading speeds in general (and more consistent because Dolphin is probably the best emulator for any console).

P.S: I probably put way too much work into this but I hope it was easy to understand. If you are confused please ask about anything!

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Pakistanyamini9813 years ago

Hey, so I've been looking into the all stories categories and I have found some interesting things regarding which version you should play.

If you don't feel like reading the entire thing: NTSC-J IS THE BETTER VERSION TO PLAY FOR ALL STORIES.

If you saw my last post you would have seen the following:

NTSC-J has the following stages faster: (TOTAL TIME SAVE ~40-45 seconds) Ultimate Decisive Battle (Goku Early vs. Vegeta Scouter) SAVES ~5 seconds Frieza's Ultimate Transformation! (Frieza vs. Vegeta Scouter) SAVES ~ 15-20 seconds Vegeta's Curiousity (Semi-perfect Cell vs. #16, SS Trunks, Android 18) SAVES ~20 seconds

NTSC-U has the following stage faster: (TOTAL TIME SAVE ~50 seconds) Conclusion SAVES ~50 seconds

For all stories though, NTSC-J also saves time for at least 2 more stages: Final Battle For Earth (Goku Early vs. Turles) Saves ~5 seconds Super Saiyan Goku (Goku Early vs. Lord Slug) Saves ~10 seconds

That brings the total NTSC-J time saved to 1 minute while NTSC-U is 50 seconds. I also want to bring importance to the fact that on NTSC-J it is much easier to get the perfect cell transformation skip on "Vegeta's Curiousity), so overall I do feel as though NTSC-J is the definitively best version for running all stories.

Despite that, I do not see a need for splitting up the leaderboard since the record still has a lot of time to save (5 minutes even), and the advantage for NTSC-J would realistically be about 10-20 seconds.

EDIT: As pointed out by Mr. Challenge below, Cooler has super armor (does not flinch when punched with light attacks) in the English version which makes the fight slightly harder. I do feel that any time loss from this can be circumvented with practice, however take that into account for your decision.

TL;DR: If you don't have a version preference, play on NTSC-J for All Stories. If you do have a preference, just stick to that (I personally will be sticking to NTSC-U for now, but may switch later).

Again, I'm not really sure about the PAL version, but I'd assume it's similar to NTSC-U, so NTSC-J is still probably the best version to play.

Pakistanyamini9813 years ago

Yo, I have played both these versions now for a bit, have not tried out PAL yet. I believe that the Wii version does not have any significant differences but I am not sure - if you play Wii just try both out. NTSC-J has a few stages where the attack modifier is higher for the stage and NTSC-U has one stage where the attack modifier is higher.

The main differences I've seen so far are as follows (NOT SURE ABOUT ALL STORIES STAGES):

Also note that the approximate time saved for these is based on my times and my strategies (check twitch.tv/yamini981 for my runs)

NTSC-J has the following stages faster: (TOTAL TIME SAVE ~40-45 seconds) Ultimate Decisive Battle (Goku Early vs. Vegeta Scouter) SAVES ~5 seconds Frieza's Ultimate Transformation! (Frieza vs. Vegeta Scouter) SAVES ~ 15-20 seconds Vegeta's Curiousity (Semi-perfect Cell vs. #16, SS Trunks, Android 18) SAVES ~20 seconds

NTSC-U has the following stage faster: (TOTAL TIME SAVE ~50 seconds) Conclusion SAVES ~50 seconds

It seems from this that the version you should play on depends on your strategy/playstyle. For you, you may save a lot more time on the NTSC-J stages with the extra damage you get. The conclusion being longer seems a bit too much for me and I think I'll probably stick with NTSC-U as I was doing before, however I will try out NTSC-J for a few days to see how I like it. Overall though I would recommend using NTSC-U especially for newer players considering how much of a run killer Conclusion can be when you don't go for the spirit bomb. For world record? Hard to say - play with your preference imo.

It's also possible that there are other differences I may have missed out on, so if there are please let me know.

also mods verify my run >:(

EDIT: I lied I don't feel like playing NTSC-J cuz I prefer having time to save later in the run rather than making it up earlier. I still stand by it being up to preference though and I don't think a leaderboard divide is necessary.

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