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Finlanddemiurgi2 days ago

Hey! Would it be possible to get leaderboards for single levels? I suspect this might lure in some new players because the bar to do a short 3-minute run would be much lower than tackling the whole game. It could also be a good way of discovering new strats and pushing the game a bit more since the punishment for riskier tactics wouldn't be as high.

I kinda feel this goes for the first Rick Dangerous game as well. I mean we've already seen forum posts for single level runs. If you need an example of how to do it, we have them set up for Lotus Turbo Challenge 2.

I already tried a couple of runs and was able to bring my full run level best times down by 4-5 seconds:

Finlanddemiurgi2 months ago

Hi! Since it seems the Amiga runners use the 16 bit version of the game instead of the 8 bit version you can access with the POOKY cheat, why are the C64 runs on the same board? The games are of different length, there's a different amount of screens. The runs don't seem comparable to me. I kinda understand if the reasoning is that there are so few runs but it's still kinda odd because these are essentially different games.

Finlanddemiurgi3 months ago

Oops! I thought this went directly under the Amiga game forums but should have clarified in the title that this concerns the Amiga board only.

Hi!

Hopefully this doesn't come off as hostile, just found it interesting. Noticed some inconsistencies while practicing the speedrun and did a frame by frame comparison between the podium runs. You can already see in the first screen that the robot upstairs is running faster in the WR run compared to the 2nd and 3rd place. When the helicopter reaches the apex, the robot is touching the black pixels on the wall in all runs but at this point the WR is already like .5 seconds ahead. I would even argue that the WR falls behind the 2nd and 3rd place paces because the robot travels further by the time the player is exiting the screen.

While the helicopter jump is done more efficiently I don't see how this run is faster than the 2nd and 3rd place runs when it comes to the execution, especially when it comes to the last shot.

So as Voxandra stated on their run, the exact Amiga model/configuration, CPU and whatnot, should be standardized. From what I can tell, the 2nd and 3rd place runs run at the same speed and that's what you get when you use your run of the mill amiga_model=A1200 and fast_memory=2048 config on FS-UAE. I don't know what's going on with the WR run.

Finlanddemiurgi5 months ago

Hey! Just submitted a Mega Drive run. I guess the people over at Sega thought the game was too hard so they call the default difficulty setting "Hard" and added easier difficulties "Medium" and "Easy". These should be added as their own categories obviously (you get more lives to start with, it's easier to get extra lives with points and the enemies die with fewer hits).

My run was done on easy difficulty because it's the fastest and most consistent difficulty to run. So we could start out with just renaming the Mega Drive / Genesis category Single Segment (easy difficulty) or something and then add other categories if people start running the other difficulties too.

Finlanddemiurgi1 year ago

Hiya!

Been running the game for a few days now and noticed some differences with the Amiga version when I was trying to replicate the SNES runs:

  • The Amiga version has a wider screen (you see more of the level).
  • Some enemy patterns are different (for example the hulks in the top right corner of level 2-1).
  • Gas patterns in world 2 seem to be slightly different (for example in level 2-3).
  • Some firing patterns are different (for example the first square holes in world 3 don't seem to aim as well on SNES).
  • Preacher seems to get the shield one skill level earlier on SNES compared to Amiga.
  • On SNES you don't waste as much money on bringing your health up while using the "complete training"/"all" button. On Amiga you have to train the skills individually to have enough money for the shield by level 3-3.
  • On SNES you have more slow-downs and longer loading times when compared to an Amiga HD installation running on A1200.
  • The secret treasure room in the beginning of 3-1 only has silver coins on SNES. On Amiga there are some golden rings too.
  • Most importantly: on SNES you seem to have a dedicated button for specials. On Amiga you need to stop and charge with the firing button to use specials. This takes time and makes the shield runs especially difficult.

There are probably more differences but these are ones that I've noticed. I recommend splitting SNES and Amiga to their own categories.

Another issue is that Eino's Amiga run has very long loading times due to it being run on Amiga 500 and floppy version (I think). The route and execution of the gameplay is definitely very close to the SNES runs if not better. But I run the game on A1200 with an HD installation which has almost no loading times or slow-downs. Do you have ideas on how to combat this? Can we time how much Eino suffered from loading times and (oh god) slow-downs or should such runs be yet another category? Slow-downs delay the runs but it makes execution easier.

I'm still grinding the game and will do more efforts with an even riskier route but this is my best so far: The time is 20:34 and it's not just the lack of loading times and slow-downs, I did work on optimizing the route (thank you so much for all the runners for the ground work) and minimizing the mistakes BUT it cannot be directly compared to the other runs due to those differences. I will post the run once the categories are set up.

Finlanddemiurgi2 years ago

Why are the Amiga runs on the same leaderboard? The game seems to be very different with jump mechanics, specials and so on. Enemy and platform patterns are different and boss fights are different too. On Amiga you die if you touch the flying bosses and for example the last boss fight is done on foot on the Amiga. Even the level designs differ.

Finlanddemiurgi2 years ago

I submitted a hard difficulty run but I was actually able to beat it faster when I didn't finish first on the season scoreboard. So is it enough to qualify from each race including the last one?

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