GermanyHey, sorry for beeing busy lately. I'm happy that at least some people share my oppinion :D But i did some research on the things @Regole said here.
First i want say that the statement that a glitchless category would't have many interested player isn't true. 7 out of 30 runs in the NWW category are listed as glitchless (not even involved HardcoreBob) , thats almost 25%. And besides, we have a DSR category "All Achivements" with 1 runner, just saying.
In the speedsouls discord were rules made for a glitchless category, like regole said. I searched and found the discussion. It's in the "ds1-remastred" channel. There were two specific posts about the final rules, one link (https://pastebin.com/39EUXnPb), send by user "Ducksual" with the note that sheet were made by someone called "Milt", then a shorter version also by Ducksual, both posts were made on 24.08.2019. The rules were made, but the person which was supposed to put them on the wiki, so a category could be created, never did that. Thats the only reason that there isn't a glitchless category, so far as I understand that.
And yeah i know, you don't need a category for your runs. BUT, like @HardcoreBob said, if you have a leaderboard where you can compare yourself directly, it's way more motivating, and I think this would bring more people into it.
I thought about for 3 weeks if i want to submit my run in a category which is clearly not mine. Sure my run is horrible as hell and I have a lot to learn until it will be a decent run. But I think there are a lot people with the same thoughts, who don't submit their runs at all, cause they think: "why should I submit my glitchless run in a category with glitches where i can't compere my run to the others?"
So hope you understand my point and I'd love to have a discussion (probably on the speedsouls discord) about that, the ruleset, possible changes to the rules, etc, so we may have that category one day.
Were they made long ago or recently and just not addeded in the wiki? If it was long ago, are the rules recorded or still visible, or are they lost?
Hey
Hard to define? Why? I mean, glitchless is without glitches, so no death cam glitch or wrong warp for example. Yeah a glitchless run would have less or actually no stuff/glitches, but also more base game content, cause the runner had to do more there. Look at the Pokemon Games. The glitchless category there is huge as the glitched one. You got the glitched runs, which are 10-20 minutes and the glitchless runs from round about 2 to 3 hours. I think the same would count for Dark Souls (Remastered). There are a lot people who are not interested in glitched runs, cause they think glitches made games too easy, or they don't have a connection to such runs, so they are more interested in glitchless runs.
Yeah for sure. I do glitchless runs, not on a high level, but it's getting better :)
Hi everyone,
I wonder why there is no glitchless category. I personaly think glitchless is always an interesting category, because there are games beaten the "intended" way. And i also could submit a run :D
