Btw still think that the ranking shoud be either split in dif patch versions or only current patch. It is just not possible to play "The Lombard League" like before as Devs changed the wonder placement. The way its now people cant even try to compete for better times as downgrading DE is a damn hassle if at all possible should you not get the old patch data from some dubious side ...

The way its now people are activly hedged out to compete for records. At least imo that shouldnt be the principels of this side. Know some people that dont even try running Barbarossa cause they know their attempts for 4 wouldnt be recogniced at all this way.

And most Runs nowadays only count the most recent Patch for ranking especialy if it changes the way of the run in such a heavy was as Lombard League. Also it makes for more competitiona and new strategies as the current top placed runners have to rethink and do a new run to hold their place.

Than without a sub-category the times should be ranked via the patch filter. Like with many other games the newest patch and the times for that should be the valid once. As stated the change of the mission just makes it impossible to get the current top times ever again and for AoE2 DE its hard to revert to old patches and for some it is even impossible at all. Would be unfair for new runners to have to compete with impossible times cause of game changes.

The current or 1-2 patches before changed the way to run Barbarossa 4 entirely. Its not possible anymore to build the wonder outside of Veniece so to get the current best times or even close to that is also impossible now.

Thats why i wanted to suggest a pre and post patch category to determine the now fastest possible runs for that mission !?