New flash game submittions banned
4 years ago
Poland

I've recently heard that any future new flash game suggestions for the site will be immediately rejected regardless of quality. And I wanted to ask if it is true, and if so, why? While flash games are known for their poor quality, due to the majority of them being very bad, there do exist many that are really good, and have great speedrun potential. So rejecting all just because of some being improper doesn't seem like the right answer. Is it because of flash being discontinued soon? Because ways to work around this (standalone Flash, BlueMaxima's Flashpoint) do exist, and are already widely used amongst many flash game speedrunning communities. So that also doesn't seem like a fitting reason.

Are new flash games really not going to be added to the site anymore? And if, then why so? I would greatly appreciate any answers to this.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
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Israel

The answer is no, those games are not going to be banned altogether just because they are Flash games. And at this context, we are also talking about web games in general. Just as you said, since many (or most) flash games have poor quality, the rules were updated over the last years and now state that web games will be held to a higher scrutiny and will be rejected if they are short or trivial (those terms are subjective and might be up for debate, but let's not delve into that, there are many threads about this subject).

Nothing wrong in requesting good web games though.

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Poland

Huh, thanks I guess. The reason why I asked this in the first place is cause I got a rejection message on my submission simply stating: “We are not looking to accept flash games at this time”. And later that got confirmed by Shiken when he said: “It means they were accepted in the past and now they are not. Whether or not that changes in the future, I cannot say.”.

The rejection message having nothing to do with the contents of the game itself, and Shikens comment, gave me the impression that any new Flash games won't be accepted. Though I guess from your comment that is no longer the case? Do you think I should try submitting that game once again since the last time there seemingly was nothing wrong with its quality?

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Israel

Ok, by looking now at the game request rules, there is one new sentence:

Due to Flash being almost universally obsoleted, we are also putting Flash games under very heavy scrutiny now

So I guess that's the reason. I do agree that there are ways to play Flash games anyway, like the BlueMaxima Flashpoint program, I used it myself to run some games.

I guess we will need to wait a bit to see how Flash will behave on browsers in the near future, to see if we can still play legacy flash games as we can today.

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Poland

"Due to Flash being almost universally obsoleted, we are also putting Flash games under very heavy scrutiny now"

I did saw that line in the game request guidelines, but it neither mentions F games being banned completely, nor gives a good reason as to why so. Since as you mentioned, there are good ways to get around Flash being discontinued. Because of that I didn't see how it was relevant to the discussion.

And what do you mean by "legacy flash games"? I'm pretty sure that any games like that can be played through either Flashpoint or standalone so their state on browsers won't matter much.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Israel

We will need an explanation of the site mods on this one. I don't understand why Flash games should be banned completely, regardless of their content, if that is indeed the case here. Also, I said "legacy" flash games because no one develops a flash game in current times.

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Netherlands

What is exactly unclear? It states nowhere that game requests for Flash games are banned completely.

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Poland

Not too long ago I got a rejection message on my submission simply stating: “We are not looking to accept flash games at this time”. And later that got confirmed by Shiken when he said: “It means they were accepted in the past and now they are not. Whether or not that changes in the future, I cannot say.”.

The rejection message having nothing to do with the contents of the game itself, and Shikens comment, gave me the impression that any new Flash games won't be accepted. But I understand that that is no longer the case and new flash games are fine now? Or were they never banned like that to begin with? Either way, do you think I should try resubmitting that game since the last time there seemingly was nothing wrong with its quality?

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Pear likes this
Netherlands

No clue what happened perhaps some misunderstanding but what is curently in the rules is accurate. So no, Flash games are not banned.

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Poland

Alright, good, thanks for clearing that up.

Israel

What does "self-published games" mean? (in context of Flash games)

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