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ItalyANSIA8 years ago

haha thanks it's just that changing categories back and forth is just dumb and I'd rather talk with him/hear his arguments if it's a real issue. Of course the opinion of a super mod shouldn't ovveride what the rest of the community did to make as many people as possible happy.

@Dani as you can see ~80% of the runs with video are on VC and EMU. Recording with a DS requires a lot of effort and many newrunners on ds could have just choosen to abandon the game because taking the effort to record is not worth it in cases of mid/end leaderboard runs. Chances are that if we'd have adopted your strict standards, this game wouldn't be as much "popular" as it is now. I do understand it's not something positive and can really turn off people but I think it's required to make a game that's this difficult to record to grow. I also do know that NSE went too far and something better could be done about standards. I have a couple of ideas that I'll expose when I get back at home.

That's what I think ^^ Please Jumpyluff post your arguments (going to put back categories back at the right place in 24 h)

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Leaderbaords look super clean, you did a very nice job : )

I also would like to know why my ILs got removed

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Yes, having both as main sounds redundant but they both arguments to stay there. NSE still deserves to be misc for now as too many runs don't have video proof, including WR; otherwise it'd at least deserve a chance.

"cannonless has more optimisations and is generally a more interesting category" I'm aware that NSE has very low verification standards but I don't think it's the only reason why people decided to run it more. Sure warpless may be considered harder because of W7 but NSE hasn't anything less to optimize.

EDIT: I did move NSE to misc (as well as warpless and low to main as people requested) but they apparently returned where they were. I guess it's Jumpyluff.

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

They surely wouldn't look as bad as they do know but I do prefer all the runs w/o ms.

they'll be rounded!

Thanks you very much for submitting the problem!

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Rounding in speedruns is always something like

48:43.690 -> 48:43

right?

Or I'm getting confused with how people merely talk about/wrote down times.

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

tru

(should we keep at least ms of pro players (currently walrus, koffing, ewaller) or nah?)

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ItalyANSIA8 years ago

-Specific point of deaths (8T2 skip included) -Toadhouses used

Those infos are enough to make up loadless times (in any%) and if you think leaving calculations to mods would make it better to new people I'll change the run submission rules so that people just have to say deaths ecc...

Video-proof runs also don't even have to provide them

EDIT: points of death don't cover extra doors/pipes w/o death (which are very rare) and can't be verified in video-proofless runs, that might be another info required

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Nice! :)

It's a little more like the traditional any%, but there are some affinities w/ warpless as well.

Here's a detailed route done by Koffingrockz -> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10CiwOmgdtNisco0WsiZHrA6k8fe389utu8YnDfzb-7A/edit

EDIT: LightOfEon is right

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Made a thread to submit new categories runs ->http://www.speedrun.com/nsmbds/thread/f2mwz/1#k2o41

Made other requested changements to the leaderboards:

-Moved Any% No Secret Exit from main to misc 4+ / 1- (3+)

-Moved Cannonless from misc to main 6+ / 0- (6+)

-Moved Low% from misc to main 5+ / 0- (5+)

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

There have been some new ideas around new categories. We set up a voting system to check priorities among the community but the community has been inactive. (Here in this thread ->http://www.speedrun.com/nsmbds/thread/txl2e).

That's the right place to advise me so that I can add the category and you can submit it.

Current list: Any% Secret Worlds Beat the game passing through world 4 and world 7, no other restrictions.

All Castles Beat the game passing through all the final levels (castles) of each world. Cannons (AKA warps) are also not allowed.

Feel free to provide a better definition for said categories

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Happy the effort put into that column is somehow appreciated.

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Any% RTA will certainly be converted in IGT Any% once a run is submitted (by me). Giving the link on the any% description I wanted to encourage people trying doing the calculation so that I don't have to do it everytime, but there isn't any problem really.

While that's nice for any%, other categories may need as you suggested a tab for each console (because no one seems to want working out other LT, Walrus did a nice thing).

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

As LightOfEon said, if there's anyone s t i l l desiring to run said categories, they'll be added.

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

It's really interesting I'll give my contribute here whenever I find something : )

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Oh thanks : )

Is there a way to get the online fps on the offline version ?

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Just noticed the secret worlds thing is in the rules, sorry : P

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

On BoB, the 8 red coins shine is the second one from the left to the right but on the shine selection menu it appears fourth.

ItalyANSIA8 years ago

Aren't they on the order given by the shine selection menu when you enter a painting? : o

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