Hi guys, As you may have known, I have been using the Burnout 1 leaderboard on Cyberscore to track fastest lap and fastest total time for each track: https://www.cyberscore.me.uk/game/2

Would you all like to see these IL leaderboards moved onto Speedrun.com? A few points to consider: -If we have a leaderboard on speedrun.com and someone submits a new time to cyberscore, how will we know about it? What is the best way to keep our leaderboard in-sync or up to date?

-Should we initially copy over all submitted times from Cyberscore or only those which are verified or have proof?

I don't think we need to worry too much about new submissions to cyberscore, since most of the submissions are pretty old, though there were 2 times added just a couple of months ago. If we do add the cyberscore times, we can just periodically check the scoreboard, since it also shows the date of the most recent submission.

I think the main problem is that that most of the times don't have any type of proof. I think you're the only one who actually shows their run in a Youtube video, while pretty much all the other times don't even have a picture as proof. I personally think that there should be a video for all IL runs (or at the very least a picture showing the time), so I'm against adding the cyberscore times to speedrun.com.

In Sonic Adventure 2 we were in a similar situation. We added IL boards here on SRcom, which were previously hosted only on an external site. We copied over the top recorded runs manually ourself, and from there on just kept it up as a separate board for anyone to submit who wants, and now both leadeboards exist parallely and get used

Move the IL boards onto this site. Only bring over the runs that have verifiable proof. There really isn't a reason to use Cyberscore at all since this site can handle ILs pretty well for the most part (especially in a game like this were ILs are very straightforward). Keeping 2 separate boards on 2 sites won't harm anything, but it doesn't make sense to me.

Keep the ILs set up already here with each track, but add an additional category for "Fastest Race" or something. That way for each track there is one category for the fastest lap and another for the fastest race on that track (sum up each lap if the game doesn't do it for you at the end, I can't remember).

That should (mostly) satisfy whatever Mangeyhunter did this morning in terms of "segmented any%" since one can just add up the IL times to find out what the theoretical segmented time is.

That's my 2 cents.

Thanks for all the replies so far! It sounds like having an IL board on speedrun.com is a good idea.

We will definitely have both Fastest Track and Fastest Lap categories for each race. These both have AI and traffic on.

We can add the Free Run mode as well, since the game offers that game mode with no traffic. Free run doesn't save times to the in-game High Scores tables, so those runs would need to have video captured.

The game also has a "survival mode" in its High Score table, which has traffic but no AI and requires no crashes to complete. I'm not sure if we really need to add this since it's kinda redundant when top levels runs would have no crashes anyway.

Anyway, I'll start moving my times that have video from cyberscore onto here.

Thanks again!

Cyberscore admin here. My minions found this topic and let me know!

While we don't have an issue with this in terms of affecting our site, we are now seeing cases of people copying times from our iL leaderboards to sr.com regularly, and we are also regularly having people complain about how their scores were copied without permission. In some cases, this is being done and even including their full names.

In my opinion, that is absolutely not acceptable (and I doubt that the administration here disagrees with me).

I recommend you use the CSMail system that we have to contact each individual player to request permission to copy their times, and if they don't respond, don't do it. It's safer that way. If they do respond and say it's fine, then it's fine by us as a whole too. I hope this clears things up a bit.

Thanks for the info! That's a good point that copying submissions without permission is not good. It so happens that I haven't copied any submitted times besides my own. If we see future CyberScore submissions with videos attached, I'll use the CSMail system to ask runners if they want their run listed here as well. Of course, if they are interested enough they can also make a speedrun.com account and do their submissions themselves.