Also we need to determine what is a glitch and what is a Skip. Because we have a glitched version of the run and a glitchless run we need to make sure that anything considered a glitch stays in the glitch category, and skips can be in both runs.

Once I get back up and running RPS you will see more competition from me ;)

Stinger on Any upwards movement is fastest. Like Mission 13 with the walkways. But Angel Glide/ Evade is the safest bet. Cause like Zero said, if you screw up stinger movement, or if spiders are on the ground in the way it can completely throw off Stinger Movement. I would say for now just learn Angel Evade/ Glide Movement Until you get your times down to ~1:25:xx-1:30:xx then start incorporating Stinger Movements.

Hey! I don't remember because I didn't take notes... it was just a initial run through. But I think I had about 2-3 points per mission! When I can again I am taking thorough notes about everything! I just can't today! Maybe this weekend!

So, I did a quick run last night and once thing I noticed in vanilla is that we get a crap ton of skills points. Like I feel like it took so much time because I wasnt allocating my skills correctly. I am going to try and Optimize this. But what I believe is the absolute minimum needed for the run is Trinity Smash, Stinger, Aerial Buy In, Buy In, Enemy Step, Double Jump, Angel Dodge, Demon Dodge, Snake Eye, Eryx Charge, and Feed. The only reason why you need Feed is because you have Osiris for sooo long before Aquila that you need the increase damage. Also you need the level 2's of all these skills as well. I am going to optimize these and figure what you need for which mission and by when. But you get more then enough Skill points in vanilla to obtain all of these easy. When I did my first run last night I got all of the Rebellion Skills and Arbiter skills on top of all of these. If you have anything else you think would be good let me know, but these are all I can think of for now!

Hey all! Now that we have NG and NG+ as different categories, I would love this thread to be used for ideas for NG routes and strats. I have a skeleton idea for this but it isnt finalized. Once my hands are better (carpel tunnel) I will be back actively routing this category :)

Thanks everyone!

Thanks PvtCb. I know I am not super active in this community so skepticism is understandable. I will upload my splits as soon as I can.

Hello all! I just got done with doing a run and did not think I was going to get anywhere near a good time in the Nero/Dante Category. Turns out I got a 2:10:26. I was not recording because it was just for me to see how much I had improved over a few weeks of practice. What is the rule about submitting? I assume I need a video to accompany my times, but I do still have the Save File and the Splits if those are also acceptable. Thanks!

Hello all! I am starting to run this game too, Nero/ Dante category, and I was wondering since this was basically the only category for the original, should I just watch videos for this category for that game to get tips? Also what kind of changes, bug fixes changed in this that I need to know about? I am super excited to run this game and I am glad that the community seems pretty active here! Thanks all :)