Watching my run back, I may not have waited long enough to switch from the first two categories. I didn't even think about checking the reset point for each category. That's totally my bad. If the run needs to be removed from the board, I totally understand.

Since we're clarifying rules, would it be ok to add that a full reset must be done in between difficulties rather than starting from a save state? If starting the game from save states is eventually going to be allowed again for the other categories, I just want to make sure this category stays as fair as possible for both emulator and console runs.

The only time I can think of this being an advantage is for anyone running the all difficulties category. Huge time save over console runners when having to reset and switch difficulties.

For all other categories, I'm fine with it.

Just a thought, but what if the 2 main categories for the board were Any% and No Exploits (or whatever it needs to be called if a rules overhaul happens) with the difficulties being sub-categories under two? If we're adding all the difficulties to No Exploits, that seems to make more sense to me than having it as a category of Misc. with more sub categories inside that. In my mind, having the two main tabs of the board be the two main "route" options seems like a cleaner looking board and more easy to navigate.

I wasn't gonna jump in on this, but after reading everything, I suppose I will. It's gonna be long, sorry in advance...

I agree, I would have liked some sort of notification about the new mods. There have been a few different instances in this community now where things have happened behind the scenes with little to no discussion or clarification. If the LK community is as "close" as others are suggesting, a short forum or discord blurb saying "hey here's what's happening" would have been nice.

HOWEVER. I don't see why people are getting so upset about the choice made. Granted, the mods chosen seem a little left field to me too, but if they are good mods that are capable of accurately reviewing and verifying runs and maintaining boards, what does it matter? Other boards have multiple mods, and I'm guessing not all of them are the class favorite. If they know the game and know what to look for, I have no problem. Saying that just because they don't have a run on the board isn't quite fair. For example, I'm not completely incompetent of the SNES version, even though I barely play it. I've watched enough and played enough to know what's going on. (Please don't read that as me wanting to be a snes mod, I'm just saying give the guys some credit).

I will fully admit, I was one of the people not ok with verifying runs on stream. I saw Insom was streaming run verifications when I had a run to verify. I knew I wasn't going to be able to watch, and I didn't want people critiquing and judging my run without myself being able to be there and explain or justify my playing. I DMd Insom and asked him not to verify my run on stream, and he agreed, for which I was very grateful. If others like it, then good on you. It just seemed off to me.

I've been running the game for about two years now with little breaks here and there, which is probably the longest amount of anyone posting in this thread. Not flexing, just stating fact. The board and community have changed TREMENDOUSLY over that time. The growth in popularity and amount of runs over the past few months is crazy. It's unfair to ask any mod to run that basically by themselves, no matter how fast they're able to churn out verifications. I personally wouldn't want that burden. Plus with so many new runners, I think it's good to have some backup.

I don't post a lot in forums or the LK discord because I feel like I'm out of place. I've always kind of been a lone wolf with this game, playing at my own pace, helping out new runners when I can, connecting with a couple runners here and there, but basically just doing my own thing. I'm glad that people have found a close-knit group of friends and a game they enjoy to run in this community. I truly love the game and love to see when others do too. Speedrunning has definitely opened me up to a world of new friends as well. But don't let stuff like this cause some sort of division. I get why people are upset. There has been a bit of drama recently that has seemed to put some of us on edge. But just remember....it's a game. We're playing a video game. This is supposed to be fun. Make it fun guys. Support each other. Help each other. Don't criticize if you see things differently than someone else. Play. The. Game.

That's all. Sorry for the long rant.

Would the input display be for emulator runs? I'm not sure how to do display for console runs.

This all seems good to me. I'm glad we'll have a little more structure to the rules. I know the SNES board has been updating their rules, it's time Genny did too. Thanks for doing this 8Bits and Retro!

@8BitsOfJoy thank you!

So I submitted a run for Difficult, but it shows up under easy...you can only see it if you use the Filter option and show Difficult. Is there any way to move it to the new Hard category? Or do I need to resubmit?

I'd be down to have different difficulty categories for Genesis. I've only run easy...kinda curious to see the difference in times for the different difficulties. And I agree with 8Bits, since SNES has different categories, why not make Genesis match?