@Dangerless I didn't demand. Again you seem to like taking my words to extremes. I asked which is very different and gave my reasonings for the request.

The reasons being that there are categories needing to be added. And that the current set up for Any% isn't Any%. You may think that is opinion based. And yes perhaps my first action should of been to message the Mod, but given he hasn't Moderated before and has already set up an Any% with DLC included that is why I decided to first post here. If you feel that was an error on my behalf then ok.

Demanding would be exactly that. Demanding without giving reason.

Again to reply on the comment of 2 games in the Trials series being "neglected". 99% of Trials runs submitted here in the past 5 years have been to Blood Dragon and Fusion. They have been the active leaderboards which is why they have had rulesets and guidelines given. Nothing has been neglected. One of the two you mention is 4 years old and only had me submit a run, and in those 4 years since not a single person showed interest or desire to run it. Nothing has been neglected. Having said that I will happily add rulesets for the games you question.

"Because I didn't like what Jammy had set up" Id like to point out this is the 5th time I've been labelled as doing something I didn't do or say. I never said I didn't like what he has done, I pointed out why there is a problem. Not that I was in any way unappreciative or disliking to what he has tried to set up.

Why doesn't mod experiecence from past games make sense? How well do you know Trials?

Two Mario games are vastly different to eachother. So that makes perfect sense in why one mod for one isn't necessarily beneficial to the other as you say. The same cant be said about Trials games because they are almost identical In their structure and gameplay from title to title.

A game non of us have moderated? Nobody has moderated it. There is 1 run.

A run which currently is Incorrect.

The game has been out for 3 months and there is only 1 run and leaderboard which has been set up wrong.

Trials Games are complex to set up guidlines and timing rules for.

This is even more evident considering the single category and the only run in the Trials Rising section currently is an Illegal run because it uses content from a DLC patch 2 months into the game.

Any% Is base game content. What was available day 1 of the games release.

It's not just my opinion, that is how it is. Dlc is used in the current run of Any% and that is wrong.

I had every reason to make a post here.

Trials Games havent changed much in their structure over the years and don't have obvious timing points for categories and category guidelines.

Which is why Mod experience from past games is very beneficial.

Thanks for that @Dangerless Not sure where I put anywhere that I want "special privileges" or to "own" a board or to "make up rules" for a game "I dont run" with 450 hours in. You say you want to avoid a rant but seem quick to throw those at me which isn't very nice and couldn't be more from how it is.

Been nothing but respectful and civil explaining how as a community we discuss things. I have given just reasoning to everything you questioned.

I created my Initial post because Jammys current Any% Wr Run is Illegal and not Any% but a seperate category because it uses tracks not in the "Base Game". And we felt that the leaderboards are in need of mods with years of experience setting them up to adress this and setting up the other categories for the community who have sent me questions on how they run them.

I'm not going to say anymore. Apparently I'm being treated like I have done something wrong which puzzles me.

Jammy has got back to me and we are discussing things today so I'm going to leave it there.

@Dangerless I don't understand why you think we have hostile intentions. We have moderated the Trials Games for 5 years Everyone in the trials community always comes to me or Vantier or Sandholm when they have questions about how to speedrun Trials, there is no dictatorship. It is community decided on how rules of the previous game were set out. Not 1 person defining everything or just wanting to "grab a board" or "make up rules" as you say? - We have always discussed timing/completion rules as a group and then set them up. Trials Evoluton Gold had no rules because the game only ever had myself do speedruns. There was never the need to post rules because nobody else got into it or showed interest in that board. Trials Evo had no rules because It wasn't on PC, You can't reset your save file to 0% so I personally never invested time into it, other than reviewing runs over the years. Fusion and Blood Dragon however have had multiple guidelines and timing rulesets places on each category over the years by us.

Also you say I don't run the game? - Whilst it is true I am yet to post a run this is only because I have been practicing each individual level since the release of the game. Which again is only 3 months old, before I head into full game speedruns. Thats how I have always done it with trials games. Instead of rushing into a fullgame speedrun. Each track has had multiple timesavers discovered over the initial few months, and it is for that reason I don't rush into the category runs. Because ultimately it wouldn't be beneficial in the long run for optimal gameplay on each individual IL of a category speedrun. Trials Is a Game that has speedruns on each level, each individual track is time based. I actively stream the game for 7 hours or more each day. I have 444 hours in 2.5 months played. so It's safe to say I run it. The game is now at a point where I am comfortable in doing categories with most Individual tracks being optimised. Of which there are 122 seperate levels which is why there isn't many runs currently submitted on a 4 hour speedrun because as mentioned the game has been in a discovery period. Once I stream it, It will see a boom of people submitting runs as with the last Trials Game. (Fusion) I will be doing full runs starting next week.

I have contacted Jammy but am yet to hear back, his last stream was 7 days ago. I wasn't asking for him to be removed, Considering the history I didn't think it was an unreasonable request. I wouldn't however think it was much to ask to add me to the super mod list of the game so I can at least place guidelines and timing rules for each category because currently there is none for Platinum% and Ninja% which I would like to add and it is needed so that new players don't get confused. I have already been approached by a few players asking me how to time these runs because there is no clear end point in the game for them and the guide section is in desperate need of clear input for that. I would like to add the categories with the accompanying text so it is clear for people who want to run them.

@Liv Actually there is an issue currently. There is also a slight issue with the current Any% The WR run on any% Downloadable Content tracks that aren't in the base game are used. Any% has always been base game only. So under global Any% Rules the run is invalid

Filters can be used in game to avoid playing the DLC Tracks for normal "Any%"

The Category his video is in needs to be renamed to Any% w/ DLC

Update: Jammy got back to me, We are discussing tweaks.

Hello

I am a Super Mod for the Trials Series and have been for several years

Currently I can't edit anything for Trials Rising

Trials Rising was released a couple months ago but the mods have not carried over even though the games is listed in the series link below

https://www.speedrun.com/trials

The game is very new and I would ask that the moderation team be kept the same as before and not new mods if that is ok

We are in the process of setting the timing rules for categories and the guidlines for 3-4 categories. Any %, Any% w/ DLC, Platinum% and Ninja%. Jammy is currently the only Super Mod for Trials Rising, He hasn't Moderated before and has set up Any% Incorrectly and submitted an invalid run. We would ask that he could be placed as a regular mod and that the super mods from the trials series link could be carried over so we can adjust and fix this. We have modded Trials games for the past 5 years setting up the guidelines and timing rules for the community.

Vantier and Myself

One Adjustment to the above, We will both comment our own section for the bid war :)

Trials Fusion Bid war: Upside-down vs. Right-side up

This bid war will decide who will play RedLynx Derby and in which way. There's a challenge in the track which flips the screen to be up-side down and to save time we do the other two challenges at the same time. This forces us to complete the track up-side down, while on the Roach (the 2nd fastest bike) and needing 5 faults or less.

Zzzlol94 will play the track as it is, upside-down as It was intended by the game creators. "The True Way"

TheBlazeJp will attempt to rotate his head or Lie upside down to counterbalance the challenge which will make it right-side up. "The Fun Way"

Trials Fusion All Challenges%

Over the last month I have had The Trials EU Championships with dreamhack and the Finals after the first 3 weeks this weekend just gone in Tours France where I came 4th.

Because of this I haven't got practice in. But I will be starting up hard again this weekend.

I did get a PB before the last month of 2:26

Offcourse we have submitted this as a Relay and this is because we will be taking each others best skills in trials and combining them to go as fast as possible and have a consistent stream of commentary

We do feel Challenge% Is the best for viewers and those who haven't seen the game before. The category has the most depth in variety and different mechanics shown in the run.

Just wanted to post this as a heads up, and we look forward to the cuts.

Blaze