Is this how Mods treat Speedrunners?
6 years ago

First, some context. I'm a Nidhogg Speedrunner that held the top score on the leaderboards for a long time. When I started recording (using my old laptop at the time), it dropped frames on my game which led to my runs being rejected (I was notified 2 years later). That is completely understandable as to why my runs were rejected, but at the time that was the best content that I could produce.

BUT

The moderator (NovaTitan), then went so far as to call me shady and a cheater on another YouTube channel. So, within a week I reclaimed my top spot with a video proof in full frames, putting this to rest once and for all. I confronted him with the intention of clearing my name.

NovaTitan continues to hold his stance and refuses to admit that he was wrong. Not just for calling me a cheater, but for acting unprofessionally about the whole situation.

Please read a portion of the exchange below: https://gyazo.com/444c5cc67ee1d7369777f4e0b2d31f4e

Here's a video link where one of our full conversations was held. Please click it and scroll down to the comments section.

Here's another conversation from the other channel: https://gyazo.com/4efd06c76917c7b4074b078a65ba6473

Is this the type of moderator you want verifying your speedruns?

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Breakthrough, Sklitterbeer und 2 Andere gefällt das.
Valhalla

Yeah I don't know the full situation but the guy has zero runs posted, zero posts in any forum, and has been on SRC less than a month. Why does he have mod?

coolestto, josef733 und 8 Andere gefällt das.
United States

Yeah honestly I've been seeing a fair few number of games lately that have mods with 0 runs and 0 posts on the account. Having hard times telling why the super mod would mod these people some times lately.

Osmosis_Jones, Sklitterbeer, und Hako gefällt das.

Feel free to ask anything to get a better understanding. I've always been transparent about my runs and answered every question on my YouTube channel.

Scotland

your run was just deleted off the leader board I literally checked your runs page and poof gone 0-0 like ehhh

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Slovenia

Have you tried talking to the other mod? Or bringing it up on the Nidhogg sr forums?

United States

Oh geez that is the most invalid mental concept of what a TAS is that I've seen.

Definitely something to talk about with the other mod, and if that isn't possible, a Full Mod on an appropriate forum post might be able to help.

Sklitterbeer und Fr0gb0y gefällt das.

My run wasn't deleted, I wanted to resubmit it after he immaturely commented on it himself. I basically said how I beat the record with a broken controller, and he edited it saying how there's no proof that I did (even though that aspect has nothing to do with the run itself, and he has no place replying like that). So I resubmitted it showing a pic of my controller, and he replies how he has to watch me playing with the broken controller to prove it. Rofl. He should stick to doing his job instead of this pointless personal vendetta against me. Well, he won't be doing it for much longer.

Yeah I've tried contacting a handful of mods so far, no one has replied yet. If you know a moderator that's pretty active that I can message, please let me know. Thanks!

Scotland

Did you try contacting https://www.speedrun.com/user/sutiibu yet as they are the other mod for the game? They seem active on Twitter :)

Chhipz gefällt das.

I wasn't planning on contacting him since he seems to work alongside NovaTitan and there may or may not be bias because of that. I'll wait to hear back from other mods, if I don't hear by tomorrow then I'll try messaging him.

North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

This is what we call abusing your powers.. Keeping on calling someone a cheater even though you are proved wrong.. Seriously? Plus, he has no forum posts, let alone runs! And not even a member for a month. Who the fuck does that guy think he is!?

Y2kRito, coolestto und 12 Andere gefällt das.

Yeah I don't believe either of them run or even know much about this game.

Also, you make a good point. I have no problem being honest and clearing my name, but I shouldn't have been assumed guilty. Even when I fully explain the situation he clearly doesn't care and wants to call me a cheater.

And now he refuses to re-verify my run because I edited the description on it again and called him out on his BS. Lol. You can find what I wrote here: https://gyazo.com/972e2d1fd02d1bc476474f83aff2637a

Also, I contacted Sutiibu and let them know about the situation. Hopefully they'll get back to me shortly.

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Russia

stream your runs 1-2 times if you can, get the time thats pretty close to wr and have great nice talk again. you shouldn't be really caring if somebody cheats, just remove his runs and that all, but if you'll come back with 100% legit run w/ ~same time as the removed one, you'll probably feel urself a bit uncomfortable (from mods perspective).

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North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

[quote=Liv]That guy also sounds like he doesn't even know what a TAS is. How does a recording dropping frames in any way hint at it being a TAS?[/quote]

By that guy's logic, half of my runs on the site are TAS..

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josef733, blueYOSHI und 3 Andere gefällt das.

I used to stream my speedruns, but streaming takes up even more resources on my computer and I couldn't keep my framerate high in the past. Most of my YouTube runs are uploaded straight from my Twitch channel. I could probably stream in full frames or close to it now, however there's really no point. The problem here is the moderator himself and anything I say or do he has consistently twisted my words and will think I'm cheating regardless. He needs to have his privileges removed.

Sklitterbeer gefällt das.
Maryland, USA

innocent until proven guilty

Breakthrough, josef733 und 3 Andere gefällt das.
Scotland

you should really make a forum post in the Nidhogg forums maybe and if nothing happens in a bit like no response from the other mod or more mocking then go to the moderation request thread and request to be a mod yourself or try to get something done idk hope something can be done though.

New Jersey, USA

I am in the mod in question. I do speedrun the game, Nidhogg for PC, and managed only 11min something second run, but nothing to qualify as a good speedrun so did not post it up. Regardless, I stand by the standards set forth and my run had no music since I like to run without music so I would be DQed by the ruleset posed. I have already qualified the OP's run twice. I really think this is overblown, but I have come here to defend myself as he puts a weird public smear campaign for a rather niche title in a small, inactive community.

For some personality reason, chhipz thinks I only rejected his run. I have rejected 12 total runs from different runners, many who have posted either one segmented run or an imagepost. If the speedrun community thinks that is sufficient, I can re-release those runs as do fit. I have screenshotted these rejections in TIFF file in case something like this would happen and will PM those to the head moderator of speedrun.com or this community forum moderator (whichever works).

Putting my opinions aside, I await the head moderator to approve the run, since it's fairer that way. Am busy with work until end of February, so I can't approve any runs until then. I have to go to another city for field operation.

Illinois, USA

Oh my lord this is not how these situations should be handled. I would really like to know how NovaTitan became a mod. He is obviously not fit for the responsibility.

**Afterthought - if it takes you several weeks to watch a pb and approve it please relinquish mod responsibilities. No one should have to wait that long.

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