Do we need this hilarious category? You can't start for the yellow toad in JP version. But like in this video you can start for 2p and die with the green toad. I approved this run, but if we have this category I think we must include 2p start on video in every attempt. And also when we shoud start the timer? it's reasonable to start the timer when you start with the yellow toad only, but making a savestate or something should be prohibited I think. If we leave this category it will be annoying as hell to start every attempt in a legit way. So I don't know what to do with this category :D

So no one is against that all spike skips in Terra Tubes should be allowed I think. Except the last one before the spinners, because it skips a significant part of the level. I asked JC, he doesn't mind. I also don't mind. If someone is against it, we can discuss it here.

Some people ask me about a Battletoads guide and I noticed that there is no latest guide here. So I've added the 2019 expert guide by jay_cee. I hope jay_cee doesn't mind :)

I think it's fine to use hardware emulation, it should be no difference between the original console.

I will repeat why I made this decision. No one has ever used this code in the runs. If you want this code to be used, create a vote among the community so everyone can decide. I am now the only one active moderator in this game and therefore cannot decide for everyone. But if we allow this code, it will radically change the approach to speedrunning in this game. So that's why I declined it. If I'm wrong, I can stop moderating and let other people do it

I've updated the rules. Sorry, usually it's obvious to not use any cheat codes in the runs. I think most of the people know about that and it's really strange that it's not prohibited in main NES rules here https://goo.gl/pYN6AR . Maybe because each game is different and cheat codes are allowed in some specific games. And it can't be allowed because it would be unfair for most of the runs which use a bike glitch. Because it will be much easier when you die and continue after a death. For expample in arctic caverns stage.

Sorry guys, I didn't notice about 5 lives. My bad. Well, it's forbidden to use any codes in the game. It's the basic rule in speedruns. I had to deny these runs unfortunatelly despite of your great runs :(

How about "Any% All Stages" and "100% All Stages"? Maybe too long, but will be more understandable for people

The other reason I thought about that 3-column spike skip is because of the rat race stage.

We found that you can skip floors if you press the punch button before the rat falls down.

So it allows you to skip some floors. And it can be considered like you skip the intended route.

Than's why I thought what could be the right route :D

I think it's better to leave the rules as they are if no one is against them. Because it's hard to make universal rules for this category.

Yeah, I agree. It could be better to use the first frame when you lose the rope, because sometimes new runners even don't press any buttons after the landing

All stages sounds good I think

I don't think there is a problem. You've made a great run with a new strat, congrats! Maybe if someone finds out is it possible on the real console or other emulators we will have a new knowledge. But I can't reject this run until no one proves that this is impossible on real hardware. TGR also had a credit warp with a Rash and deleted his run for some reason. I still think that run was also possible

Hi everyone! I just noticed that the current rules for Terra tubes can be confusing for the most of the new people or even for old runners also. I mean the spike skips. Maybe it would be better to allow all the spike skips except the last one (pixel perfect spike skip in the last checkpoint)? I mean there is only the one spike skip that is not allowed after the wheels (eel part). Or is it already allowed? I'm also confused :D Yeah, I know that it skips some small upper part, but I don't think it does look like a major skip. I think the logic for this category is not doing big major skips. And the other two spike skips that are allowed look almost similar.

I agree, no credit warp would be more understandable

I disagree. It's not the emulator problem because this feature is turned off by default. It's the problem of a speedrunner. So to be honest if someone wants to be a cheater he will find the way. So I'm against of any restrictions because they will only make speedrunning more difficult for community. Banning the hole emulator because it will help to moderate the game is absurd. Who cares about speedrunners that are used to Messen, right? Let's ban everything and everyone will be happy (sarcasm) But it would be nice to mention in the rules that run-ahead feature is banned.

Well I think most of the people for sepparating so I've added a sub category for Any % no WW. So anyone can run for the yellow toad now. I will also make a run for this category one day )

It's a well-known glitch. Unfortunately you can't do anything with it. But it shouldn't happen really often. Maybe one day someone will find how to avoid it.

I'm for sepparating. Because why not? I think sepparate category will give more motivation for people to get WR for the yellow toad. Anyway, if the yellow toad will beat green toad wr it should become the main category of the game and true WR. It's much harder to get a good time for the yellow toad. So it's really challenging and I think people deservse their own category for this. P.S. And it will also give possibility to speedrun for different toads. I think some people want speedrun for both yellow and green.

Well, to be honest any hardware which differs from original can give you advantages. For example, I'm playing on dualshock 4 gamepad and it's more comfortable for my fingers. It's doesn't hurt your fingers like on nes. That's why you can grind and practice much more. So is it also an advantage? Besides no one can check do you change your buttons bindings on gamepad or not if you are using an emulator. I mean sometimes people change the select button for example to left trigger or other button and it's really cheaty thing. I'm for using the original hardware and I hope one day I will use it. But I'm not against emulators and keyboard using untill it will give you a really huge advantage. Everything is doable on gamepad what you can do on keyboard. Maybe it's a bit harder, but doable. So I don't see any big differences for now. And also I think if you compare all efforts for wr grinding it doesn't matter which device you are using. If you have a really good skills in the game you can play on keyboard or gamepad. It's just your preference. So I don't see any problems for now.

Who made these rules? Is that discussed by community? And why current wr is missing new rules? It does not have inputs and frame counter. I think it discriminates other people. So what's the point making the rules and not following them?