Adding Hellborn as a new Boss+Extract category
2 months ago
United States

Do we have an ETA on when this will be added as a category in the boss+extract?

On it!

Sheriff_Hardon المعجبون بهذا
Argentina

Shouldn't "Hunt: Showdown 1896" be added as a separate game entirely?

Like, the game has even changed name on Steam and all social media platforms, has a new engine, new map, new wild target, has even added bullet drop which makes the whole speedrunning environment quite different to what it was in my opinion.

Greece

usually leaderboards 'clear' or version change only IF the previous version is unbeatable or unfair for the current one. In this case of hunt:showdown and Hunt: Showdown 1896 its still the same also.. with new Berserker perk you can kill more faster bosses. No need to clear or change the version of speedrunning but thats only my opinion about this situation

Argentina

That's kind of why I mentioned it though, seems kind of unfair to compare speedruns between Hunt with and without bullet drop. That alone changes the gameplay environment quite radically, to the point that Crytek's website had an article (here) from April 18th, 2018 where Crytek explains the reasons why old Hunt relied on NOT having bullet drop by design.

Current "Hunt: Showdown 1896" is designed specifically around bullet drop, they've had to adjust pretty much all weapons stats, added different gravity pulls at custom distances for certain types of weapons, and they've even designed the new map with that in mind and will bring back the old maps with changes (they've even specifically mentioned in this video that the 2nd map will see changes to some compounds once they bring it back).

I think the environment has changed enough that it might justify its own separate page in my opinion, but that's actually why I'm asking as I don't curate these pages nor its submissions.

تم التحرير بواسطة الكاتب 2 months ago

I personally see no reason to create a fully new page after the latest update from Hunt.

Hunt is introducing many game-changing mechanics or tools every single year, while making older/previous ones obsolete. Yes - This can lead to unfair advantages compared to older runs. 

Time-limited traits like Berserk or even Surefoot (throwing/using consumables while running) can lead to massive advantages compared to submitted runs that didn't have access to those features (and the other way around).

As long as Hunt is getting frequent updates, we won't find a perfect solution. The speedrun community around Hunt comes down to a handful of run-submissions each month. We should look at it more casually and more fun, rather than counting every single millisecond. (We can start doing that once we hit Super Mario Bros. popularity/difficulty)

I'll be checking all runs and categories throughout the week and remove those, that are either unavailable or far too many years old (like, the old runs on this board when hunt was in alpha/freshly released).

If you notice and run, that feels way too difficult/unfair to beat due to updates/changes, feel free to create a post stating your opinion.

Argentina

Fair fair, thanks for the detailed reply.

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