Ohio, USAWe covered this in a former thread in an older version of the leaderboards, but to sum up:
There is no desire at this time to run a Randomizer Leaderboard.
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For Randomizers, there is very little quality control for a 'random seed'. Either you get good mons-moves-abilities, or you don't. It becomes a matter of randomizing repeatedly until you get something that works.
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If you do 'set seed', then it ruins the whole idea of a randomizer, and it becomes practicing that particular seed until you get the desired result, and then you flood the leaderboard with a variety of seeds.
Randomizers are good for one-offs and races with people playing simultaneously, but not great for a leaderboard.
Old thread. Current acceptable version is 0.10.3.
Added as a subcategory to 'Manipless'.
Done
This brings back an issue that's plagued this game for a long time: version exclusive bugs, glitches, and shortcuts. It's been (a very long time) since I last submitted a run (the newest map was pirate cove or whatever, for reference), but every now and again I'll come back and play some of the levels again. It can be very difficult to try and make a leaderboard that reflects not only the best time, but also takes into account that some tricks just aren't available on the current version. A game that's been changed as much as GWYF over the years is a brilliant example of this.
First off, a solution for you not being able to do the glitch is to go into Steam and boot up an earlier version of the game [search engine is your friend, I forgot the process personally].
Second, be nice to the mods and your fellow speedrunners. It's not their fault that the game devs hate fun and patch all the cool glitches and stuff out.
Denied. This is not the place for Rom Hacks and Randomizers. This is for Vanilla gameplay only.
Done.
Both have been added
Don't just give up, cuz quite frankly, I think all it'd take is a run or 2 on the board to get the ball rolling. I quite frankly want to run with this idea also, so I'm gonna add it to the leaderboard (you've already got a well-thought out run done, so that's all the justification I need)
Directed to AffectedAshes: if you want to join the Community Discord, I’m trying to start up an extended discussion regarding individual facility rulesets. Since the factory falls within its own team building confines, it was easier to set rules for, but I believe more discussion needs to be had before we finalize those rulesets. Just a few more variables are needed to be solved.
Run proposals like this one belong in Category Extensions.
The point of Trade Alt Mains is to be able to play with mons you'd normally never get the opportunity to use as a Main otherwise. Items are banned in every other format of the Trade Alt Main (across the other Pokemon games), so it'd be silly to change that rule just for these games.
- Other than that, it looks like the ruleset is fine (although when I write the rules up, I'll word them slightly differently so that they match the format of the rest of the categories).
My biggest personal gripe with this proposal is with the item. There are some mons that would gain so much more by simply having their pick of the litter (like a type-boosting item) or being able to abuse early cash moneys by having a Nugget (perhaps being viable to use the Game Corner to get a TM previously unviable). This one definitely could use some ironing-out of the rules. I think it could be a decent idea though.
Also throw in: Tools -> Game Overrides -> Enable Realtime Clock
Hello everyone. We are open for any proposals in regards to adding new categories to our leaderboards.
Please post these requests in this forum.
- Post must include the name and basic rules for the category.
- Post must include any special rules (and reasons for those rules, it's always good to have some discussion about viability).
- Post must include video footage of a completed run of the category.
Please also request Alt Main Pokes requests here if you have completed a run of them.
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Hello everyone. We are open for any proposals in regards to adding new categories to our leaderboards.
Please post these requests in this forum.
- Post must include the name and basic rules for the category.
- Post must include any special rules (and reasons for those rules, it's always good to have some discussion about viability).
- Post must include video footage of a completed run of the category.
Please also request Alt Main Pokes requests here if you have completed a run of them.
Should you have any questions, join the Discord linked on this sidebar and discuss it in the gen3-category-extensions channel.
Point remains the same. The value of a Randomized Run is the ability to make adjustments on the fly. This gets obliterated within a 'WR' setting, where the the goal is to be as fast as humanly possible. Garf's post (from forever ago) still stands.
"Random Seed" is completely pointless because of how shuffled everything gets, there's no quality control, so the only way to make a 'Fair' leaderboard is to just do a Set Seed.
"Set Seed"s problem comes from the opposite effect. In order to have a Set Seed Leaderboard, you'd need to basically make a new board for EACH SEED. This significantly clutters the board, to the point where it becomes nearly impossible to enforce new runs.
-Sincerely, Emerald Category Extensions Moderator
