Hey folks,

I've added level runs for each track (similar to Monaco GP 1) and changed the colours to match the Brazilian flag theme. I've also transferred Senna GP times to IGT to avoid any confusion for future runners. World Championships remains normal time.

Hope you guys enjoy!

MS Marceau.

Fellow OutRunners,

If you're looking for the spiritual successor of OutRunners, it already exists. It's called "Cool Riders" by SEGA. Leaderboard available here: https://www.speedrun.com/cool_riders

Hoping to see some of you join!

MS Marceau.

Fellow OutRunners,

If you're looking for the spiritual successor of OutRunners, it already exists. It's called "Cool Riders" by SEGA. Leaderboard available here: https://www.speedrun.com/cool_riders

Hoping to see some of you join!

MS Marceau.

I also suggest going to service mode by pressing F2 and disabling the menu music that way the 2nd cabinet's audio doesn't mix with the 1P cabinet's audio. You can also adjust the difficulty in there.

Just leaving a note here in case anyone wonders why this game is part of the Chase H.Q. series.

Even though this is not a racing game, this is indeed an official Chase H.Q. game occurring in the same universe :-) Pretty neat, right?

Just wanted to say a big thank you to @andypanther and @hayate64 who are the 2 mods that have been verifying my runs in a timely fashion. That incentivizes runners to play your game more so I'll definitely come back and improve my times.

Also, if you ever you'd like my help one day, I'm available.

Username: MasterSystemMarceau

Role: Moderator and speedrunner of many racing games.

Reason: Huge JetSki fan, I also do JetSki in real life and planning on buying a new Kawasaki JetSki soon. I love the Wave Race series and bought WR64 back in the '90s. I don't procrastinate on verifying runs unless I'm having something personal going on.

Once again, can we at least remove the Saturn platform from this leaderboard please and thank you.

Link to the "Anime Speedruns" discord server which includes "Anmitsu Hime" which is the Japanese anime on which Alex Kidd in High-Tech World is based on: https://discord.gg/animespeedruns

I have taken it too far? Feel free to share the DM's if you want. There was no animosity whatsoever from me towards you.

And I don't think anybody thinks I've been disrespectful in this thread either.

On the other hand, you seem to be fighting with pretty much everyone on here and it doesn't seem talking to you is an easy task. We're just supposed to submit runs and not say anything if something's amiss? That's just now how things work otherwise Billy Mitchell would still be World Record holder of Donkey Kong.

It's crazy that I've never had any issue with any other OutRun mod but you seem to be having issues with half of this small community.

Yes indeed, you have taken it too far at this point.

• Enhanced version exists indeed so we need to make sure runs are not using it. If they are, those runs simply need to be moved to the CannonBall leaderboard. I suppose you didn't use the Enhanced version for your runs, right? You didn't show DIP switch or ROM version so it's hard to know. Chris White made those Enhanced Roms before making the CannonBall version, it's basically the same thing. You can go MUCH faster on Enhanced/CannonBall (& Saturn). Simply compare the times on the 2 leaderboards and you'll see.

• I was never suggesting for a rule where runners have to type their splits. I was saying that, as a mod for the other games, I personally add it for them in comments, if it's a competitive run, especially top-3. That saves everyone else time when running against it. You don't want to? Fine. That was just a suggestion. Case closed on that.

• And again, I've never complained about runs taking a week to be verified. But like I said, adding another super-mod to help with this leaderboard would help in a lot of ways, as you seem to not appreciate handling this leaderboard. For some of us, this game is a passion and I think this game deserves better than the current state this leaderboard is in, with, for example, the Saturn version still being shown and the only Super-Mod refusing to talk about it in DM because "it's not super super important".

Regards,

Marceau.

I also wanted to confirm that "version 3" is indeed an Enhanced ROM hack as shown here below.

Here's the official SEGA Rev B ROM that myself and Gemma used:

Versus the Rev B v.2.0.3 hack with tighter turns and easier traffic made by Chris White that Dahlor and possibly other runners might be using:

And this is why I feel the most important is to show the ROM being used (for a sub-5). Much more important than the DIP switches.

• You're wrong about the Sega Ages disc for Saturn. The OutRun on it is the EXACT SAME as the Japanese stand-alone version. It is NOT an Arcade-perfect port, it has tighter turns and extra easy mode also. We even made it the SRC cover for the game. (Sega Ages OutRun (Saturn) - Speedrun.com). Once again, Saturn should NOT be included here, that is simply a fact.

• Adding the splits is NOT unnecessary and I'm sure everyone else can agree with me on that. We've all been adding them. It's not confusing at all since it's the most important thing in OutRun. The splits do not add up to the final time in this version indeed but they actually give you an excellent (and reliable) reference if your section was good or not. They just don't add up to the final time, that's it. You should know that if you did those WR runs. So they are extremely helpful.

• I do not want to overwhelm the board with more rules as I believe for example that less rules should apply to non sub-5 runs. Unless you're going for sub-5, I don't think showing the DIP switches or the ROM version is really necessary.

• Removing Dahlor's run is not urgent, we completely agree. But I thought I'd mention that we already know that run is not legit and if I hadn't said anything, it would likely stay on this leaderboard ad vitam eternam.

• I'd say the Gemma runs can stay also, unless we learn she will not unprivatize the videos. And not knowing her splits is an issue. Another reason why we should always write them down in comments. But, of course, I want Gemma to stay. She's a great person, she's 100% legit, a great competitor and I'd like as many runners on this leaderboard as possible. There's way too few of us.

• Once again, you can take 3 weeks to approve if you want. I've never said otherwise. Those are the rules. However, we all agree it is more fun when those runs are verified in a timely fashion. OutRun runs do not require reading code (e.g. Minecraft) or counting frames with Avidemux. But if you want to take 3 weeks, then BY ALL MEANS take 3 weeks. It makes no sense to me but I've never "complained" about this.

• Adding another super-moderator would mainly be so that the WR holder doesn't approve their own future runs (where no proof of authenticity is shown) and also is not only one making the decisions for the original Arcade OutRun, especially if talking about things that need to change and getting DM's is a chore.

There's absolutely drama in this, that you created. Last time was with @Shiromar and this time with me. Accusing me of "blackmail" now? Wow... Big words!

However, I would love us to be adults and just analyze facts and move on as I'm not a fan of this type of heated conversation. I hope tomorrow can be a fresh new day, we can shake hands and move on.

Regards,

Marceau.

Hello OutRunners,

I was told by the super moderator of this game that I'm not allowed to contact them in DM unless "it's super super important" because "I'm trying to mod the game by myself" so I'll have to leave my comments here from now on so everyone can agree or disagree with me, as a community:

• The "Saturn" platform needs to be removed from the leaderboard's options to avoid confusion with the Saturn leaderboard here: Sega Ages OutRun (Saturn) - Speedrun.com

• I suggest all splits to be added in comments under each sub-5 run (we do that for the other leaderboards), that helps other runners to quickly find out what splits they're running against

• I was asked to show the DIP Switches at the end of all my runs (which I do all the time now) but it's to be noted that the WR runs never show those. I also think, since we can run on Easy anyway, showing the ROM version is more important than the DIP switches and should be required for all new sub-5 runs, especially with all these Enhanced OutRun ROMs in existence.

• Dahlor's Goal E run seems to be made via an enhanced ROM (JFred99 agreed with this statement and Dahlor himself stated he was running "version 3" which does not exist--Only Rev A & B are official) and I've already added that run to the CannonBall leaderboard

• GemmaEuphoria's videos are either deleted or privated. If someone can contact her to put them back up, that'd be great, 'cause I'm currently running Goal D for Bronze and I have no idea what her splits were

• I suggest a co-Super Mod to be added (not me, but I suggest @JFred99), especially if being DM'ed about things that need to be done is a chore. To be noted, I also have 5 runs pending for approval, I know mods have 3 weeks to get on it, however OutRun as an internal clock and those are extremely quick to review. I don't see a reason why stay lone super-moderator on arguably the most important OutRun game and not create a team like we did for the other OutRun games.

I hope this post doesn't come across the wrong way as I'm only trying to get this leaderboard updated and maintained the proper way so we can all enjoy running the game we love so much in a good & drama-free environment.

Feel free to comment or leave any suggestions.

Thank you everyone.

Regards,

Marceau.

You're right. Those times could be completely random. Switching to RTA might sadly be necessary for the first time in an OutRun game.

URL: Turbo OutRun Reimagined v0.3.8f alpha by Sk1ds (itch.io)

That's weird cause the Game Gear cartridge actually holds a Master System file but I believe you. Probably the GG processes that file differently. I've split the leaderboard like you asked :-)

Rules updated. Exception made for RetroArch Mobile.

I personally don't have a problem with this but I'll let @AlphaNerd chime in.

GG! New WR!