@jpep I have deleted my original post so as to not come off as blatantly irreverent. There were posts in this thread prior (that appear to have been deleted as of the time of you reading my initial response) comparing the optimization of the records from the 2 games, so I wanted to offer an argument that the times can't really be compared because of the insane amount of differences between them. In the context of times, I also never mentioned that a 1:12 would be comparable to a top 3 time in any of the 64 categories. I was talking about the eventuality of a high 1:13, which I recognize now has come off as disrespectful, and something I shouldn't have commented on. On the note about shorter runs: my point was that shorter runs are more optimized than longer runs (as you are reiterating in your response) by default. Runs can be attempted in quicker succession, and attempt counts, practice, and therefore overall time spent improving each individual part of the run is higher than that of the 120 categories in both games. It was in no way to insinuate that 64 as a whole is more optimized than SMS as a whole simply because it has shorter categories on average. Obviously, that didn't come across, and for that I apologize. I'm a huge fan of all of the top runners, both past and present, of both games, and have immense respect for both communities and their dedication to optimizing the runs. I shouldn't have chimed in to those comparing the two games in the first place, and will refrain from doing so in the future, because, as we can both agree, they just shouldn't be compared.