Secret boss note?
2 years ago

Hello! I was introduced to this series very recently through Vynnada's AGDQ 2022 run of FAITH: Chapter II and have a budding interest in running these games. I'm particularly interested in the Any% (All Notes, All Endings) run for this game and am wondering if the note that you acquire after beating the secret boss in the mirror is required? Currently the runs on the leaderboard that are intended to collect all notes do not collect that one and I guess I just wanted to ask so I can take the answer into account as I begin to learn and route the run.

Thanks so much in advance!

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Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

I'm not well versed in any categories apart from the regular Any%, but if the World Record run doesn't get the note, I'd argue it's probably not a big deal. That, or the runs that don't get the note were mistakenly verified...since it's multiple runs though, I'd just go with what others do, as it seems like less of a mistake and more of a pattern. I'm sure that if need be, a moderator will update everyone on the situation.

Québec

Apparently, i am the new mod? So to answer the page question, this page is from a newer version of the game, so some of the runs on here might have been approved before then? Don't really know, but i guess i'll have to figure it out eventually.

Québec

Wait, i'm a dumbass those are my runs. But yeah i'll just remove them. Getting the secret boss would be needed then.

Yeah, came to find that the secret boss was not added until a later version of the game, so it would make sense either way. Getting secret boss note now would be true current hundo, but if v1.0 or any version without it are still accessible then it would be reasonable to ignore that note and current standing runs would still satisfy the all notes requirement. I chose to submit with 17 notes. If it's decided that the mirror note can be ignored I can just resubmit a different run. I support either one!

Also I used your run as the example of when to end timing, but I just noticed that the rules indicate that time ends on touching the car at the last ending. Doing ending 5 last results in still having control of the character when you touch the car (have to shoot Michael) and I guess I'm wondering if it would be better to move around which ending I do last so that timing is more definitive or if a new place to end time should be discussed.

Very sorry about having so many questions, just want to make sure runs are good and official.

Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

I suppose a solution would be to make a miscellaneous category or sub-category for Any% All Endings + All Notes called ''Legacy'' for older runs, or maybe splitting the board into pre and post secret boss addition. That, or we as a community agree on a consensus over whether or not to have the secret boss be part of the route. I personally feel as if it'd be a little strange to have a 100% category that wasn't actually 100% based on the most up-to-date version of the game, but that's just my take on it.

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I agree entirely. I personally think that the requirement of 100% (all notes/endings) should be based on current patch and what can be obtained in it. I ultimately believe that this is something that should be agreed upon by the community though and if folks feel otherwise, I would be happy to abide by that.

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