Any% Time Save Dump
26 days ago
Philippines

Since we don't have a discord server. I decided to post something on the forums about all the time saves that I have been secretly formulating for a while! (Mainly cause I haven't been able to put them to good use). I have done a lot of code-digging + testing to find all these out!

START OF THE RUN

  • Playing through cutscene > Skip Intro - The rules state that "Timer starts on the first frame you enter school and gain control of Patches (either after clicking "Skip Intro" or after clicking after patches says "I'd better figure out how to get this collar off before then.").". When you skip the intro, your mouse would be positioned waaaay too far away from the door. So you would have to move your mouse across a far distance which loses time. HOWEVER! If you watch the cutscene all the way up to the end where he says his last line of dialogue, you can pre-move the mouse to the door before the timer starts. Therefore saving time from having to move your mouse pretty far (which is probably like 0.5 seconds at most)
  • Save file for quicker resetting - Although not a time save. I think It's just faster to create a save file that starts on the dialogue shown above and load that when resetting instead of having to watch all the intro stuff again. (It may ruin muscle memory for the first few attempts but it certainly makes resets go by much quicker)

HOME EC

  • Be nice > Be an asshole - Saves 2 extra dialogue (3 > 5)
  • Clicking the Baking Gear > Give ingredients to Brownie - Skips having to talk to Brownie + Having to choose the "Give ingredients" option
  • Manipulate > Apologize - Saves 18 extra dialogue + CG scene (Includes other miscellaneous extra dialogue as well) (37 > 55)

LIBRARY

  • No > Yes - Saves 1 extra dialogue (5 > 6)
  • Stare at Angel > Look away - Saves 1 extra dialogue (7 > 8)
  • Fuck the Vice President > Why keep secrets? - Saves 8 extra dialogue (11 > 19)
  • Threaten > Offer Help - Saves 1 extra dialogue (5 > 6)
  • Find a Book > Break your Neck - Saves 1 extra dialogue (9 > 10)
  • Talk to Olive once before talking to Felix - This probably doesn't save that much time (maybe like a few miliseconds at best). But I find that when you enter the right side of the library, your cursor is much closer to Olive than Felix. So you can save more time by talking to Olive first and then positioning your mouse to talk to Felix.

CAFETERIA

  • Take fur > Compliment fur - Saves 2 extra dialogue (4 > 6)
  • Keep to yourself > Share with Olive - Saves 6 extra dialogue + CG scene (4 > 10)

GYM

  • Help Ginger speak = Interrupt her - Both options take up 7 dialogue
  • Quiet and fair >>> Modest but bloody - Choosing Modest but bloody forces you to go on a side quest to sabotage the ball whereas Quiet and fair allows you to skip straight to Sparky instantly
  • Move on > Thank Sparky - Saves 4 extra dialogue + CG scene (Former skips straight to the point whereas latter makes you go through 4 extra dialogue)

GINGER + ENDING

  • Kill > Talk - Saves a bunch of dialogue + extra menu
  • What's best > Getting revenge - Saves 1 extra dialogue (3 > 4)
  • ... > Good - Saves 2 extra dialogue (4 > 6)
  • Kill > Heal - Saves a crap ton of time from having to skip dialogue + Extra menuing + Prevents death if you killed Ginger

EXTRAS

  • Interesting Teleport Glitch - I was trying to speedrun to improve my record when I accidentally glitched the game by interacting with objects while the options menu was up. When I proceed to right click. The game showed the room I was in when I first did the trick, but without any people!In this image. I performed the glitch by opening up the options menu and selecting the door leading to home ec. When I finished all the cutscenes and right clicked. I got teleported back outside the Home EC. And trying to enter back inside will say that I am already in another class, only to be teleported back inside Home EC! (This might be the result of my pirated copy of PA3 causing weird glitches with the game. Tried this with Vincent: The Secret of Myers and it didn't produce the same result)
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Satikboga1
Any/All, He/Him
26 days ago

well this is quite interesting...

thank you for this wonderful fourm sir, I'm sure this will help me to get a time of 43 on my next speedrun

I've actually already gotten a time of 45.75 but I don't wanna submit it yet because I really wanna get a time below 45, its def possible as I've gotten very close runs but not they've often been ruined by me fumbling lol

I can say for certain this will save some time, will it result in a sub 40? doubt it but it'd still be sick nonetheless if I could get a time very close to that

thank you sire!

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Satikboga1
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25 days ago

By the way I am curious, any chance you could make a video showcasing how you could use the teleportation glitch to optimise time? I have been trying to see how I could use it to my advantage though to no avail tho I could be doing it wrong.

i heard you mention on my sub 40 it could be used to optimise time though I havent figured it out

Edited by the author 25 days ago
Philippines

There are a lot of interesting ways the trick can save time!

I found multiple teleport strats for each individual class. But they save like a few miliseconds at best and are pretty difficult to pull off (I can still mention them if you want!). The most human friendly strategy I could find is to "hook up" the teleport glitch at the Home EC door AFTER you finish Home EC (doing it before will sorta mess up the game and will play segments from the Home EC. This just loses time compared to after). And then continue playing normally until you finish the Gym Intro cutscene. Then you right click to teleport back into the Home EC door and essentially skip the entire gym class

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Satikboga1
Any/All, He/Him
25 days ago

Right right, gotcha.

I'd like to hear the difficult teleport strats you mentioned at the start, as someone whos planning to get the most optimal run [sub 35 maybe, I still believe a sub 30 is near impossible]

I'll def mess around with the teleportation glitch outside of speedrunning for now so I can get the hang of it, appreciate it!

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