This should be 3 frames faster than soccfolder, just for the lulzies

Confirmed it saves 3 frames

Actually it's 4 (warning headphone users: High pitch voice)

no

so this ties mavpole is this kind of similar to mavpole and will it work in 8-1 or in 8-3

I might not be thinking thoroughly enough, but what's the point of doing this type of fpg if it only saves 4 frames? And it's obvious to most people that you can only save time in increments of 21 frames (0.35 seconds). 4 simply isn't enough, so it isn't worth doing that fpg in runs because it doesn't save time. However it DOES add to the amount of frames the player can spare so they don't have to worry about doing everything else just as good.

@Mars02 Aldyn says it's for the lulz

Would this possibly save a framerule with a fast accel in the beginning of the level, and one after you get out of the coin cash? Or would that mess up subpixels possibly

It does NOT save a framerule over the other method, but it allows you to have a very slow underground and be able to save the framerule I would say this IS mavpole, so it could technically work in every level, but you'd have to press left for different amounts depending on the level

You practice anything enough and you will get consistent

You technically need to use this in 8-1 to save the framerule. Sockfolder method saves 17 frames over just jumping to the top of the flag. But "mavpole" saves an additional 4 making it 21, just enough to save another FR (if you play 8-1 perfectly)

@EthanAlexE Plus in 8-1 doing fast accel will save another framerule too.

The TAS is 20 frames faster in 1-1 and doesn't save the framerule. Also, sockfolder saves 15 frames and doing a non-setup saves 19. The fast acceleration at the start of 8-1 saves 2 frames so doing that without sockfolder setup would save 21 frames.

if it saves shortens the wait time even slightly then its progress.

Because of framerules, you cant shorten the loading time between levels.

If you dont know what a framerule is : "imagine there is a bus stop at the end of every level, that comes every 21 frames. If you come 0 or more frames early, you catch the bus and move on to the next level. But if you miss the deadline by even 1 frame, you have to wait another 20 frames to catch the next." - Darbian

The fastest you can finish 1-1. (From power on to the frame you touch the flagpole) is 1289 frames. In order to tie with the TAS, you have to be faster than or equal to 1310 frames in 1-1

Sorry this thread is dead but it's the most relevant thread for this. Someone should TAS the no framerules ROM hack and see what would be possible. Or I could just learn to TAS Kappa