Like this is actually really dumb. End should be when the final cutscene triggers. That happens when you go back to town after final mission. When you hit the bomb time, makes actually no sense. Can we please change this

Its set to the bomb because that's the last action the player does before triggering the last cut scene thus ending the game.

The any% WR shows this, and this video which plays the whole cut scene to the credits.

so we are just going to ignore that this exists? clearly not the last action the player takes, and clearly not the last cut scene, the cut scene literally ends with "the end"

It being the Encore ending as a bonus ending or the "real" ending doesn't apply in a speed run, it would apply if it was encore% to get to the real ending but its not.

Any% is to finish the game and get the first ending.

but right now you aren't ending the game, at its ending.

there is no reason we cannot change the current rules. i think it makes infinitely more sense to have time end, at the end of the game, not before. only one person so far has run the game, with a worth while time. we can change this without harming anything

In my runs that I've done so far I stopped the timer at the beginning of the city return cinematic (I haven't submitted any because I forget to split or I don't record) but I think its better to change the ending of any% to the city cinematic that plays upon returning to it. Also Encore% would be starting the game from the very beginning and beating it twice, to obtain the "true" ending.

I finally found a video with the full ending so you are right I thought you needed to trigger reset sequence after the credit rolls.

But if the rules change then all the runs will have to be rejected so unless you plan on running any% with the new rule change I'll accept it, if not this game is very dead and making any% longer isn't going to entice anyone into running it.

encore ending would be beating the game twice.

Changed the Timer end rule.

changing the rules will only have to reject 2 runs. not that many, i agree that rejecting that most recent run sucks. but long term i think it will be better off, me and mr something are both interesting in running the game. ive been looking into the any% run a lot, i know mr something has too.

Yeah it's annoying to do but you was right, it was hard finding a video of the ending to double check and that's why I was getting so frustrated about it all.

But I look forward to future runs for this game hopefully Tri and Bran redo there Any% runs.

i hope so. also what is the deal with intro skip? are you allowed to do it or naw? if it is any% i think under definition of any% i assume it would be, but thought i would ask

I'll add in for any% about Intro skip I thought it was only for for ng+?

ng+ would be starting from town with a pre-existed save i would think so like you pick your team comp to be whatever you want and use you level 99 units for the run. or whatever you want. instead of using what you get during the run

so adding ng+ any% would be a good idea since it would differ from any%

sounds good to me

Ng+% as we've thought it among ourselves was using a pre-existing save starting from the earliest quest in the story line, using whatever you think is best, Encore% as I think it should be is starting the game from the beginning and completing Ng and Ng+ with whatever is obtained during the run

i dont think we need an encore%

so for both intro skip is allowed as it doesn't require the save to be tampered with. for ng+ I would think it be when you start it again after the 1st completion of the story so it sets you to the earliest point with anything you have unlocked and any level.

also the 7 second rule doesnt apply if you skip the intro, time would just start when you hit play on your new save, you should beable to tell by watching the rule whether or not it is a legit a new save or not, but i understand wanting to have them show them starting the new save file, just to make sure.