Questions about excessively long speed runs (NG+28 33 Orb)
1 year ago
United States

I plan to do a NG+28 Speed run very soon, and I don't know the general rules around speed running. I do plan on streaming this so I don't plan on cheating in anyway, nor do I have any desire to do so. I do however have a few questions.

So in very deep Noita runs it's common to create backup saves incase of game breaking crashes/ glitches. Recently the most notable of such is the "poof" glitch in which teleporting into a chunk as it unloads also unloads the player in that instant resulting in instant death. Where typically there are multiple live saving mechanics (Extra Life Perk and Saving Grace) in the game to prevent death, this glitch bypasses ALL live saving methods and instantly kills the player.

So my questions are:

  1. In the event of game breaking bugs occurring, would that kill the run? As stated the "poof" glitch bypasses all typical methods that would guarantee survival and is an instant death, there is no concrete method of avoiding this glitch, but there are theorized methods of preventing it.

  2. In the event of such a game breaking bug occurring, would reverting to a backup of the same run be valid? With the assumption that prepping the back up and re-opening the game be included in the timer of the run?

I am highly confident in my ability to complete this speed run, however such a glitch posses some very difficult issues with a run of this nature. I would probably still attempt the run even if back ups are deemed not allowed, but I doubt I would re-try if the glitch kills the run once or twice.

Finland

I already answered you on discord but since you made a thread here I'll answer here too for anyone else interested.

First of all, there is no official category for ng+28 33 orb speedrun, so there are no official rules for it yet either. If more interest appears for this category, it could become an official one.

To answer your questions:

  1. The "quicksave" egg can save you from this. Basically it's just a crash wand inside a hollow egg. When the player is deleted, killed or polymorphed, the payload of the egg happens and crashes the game. This will take you back to the last save point the game made, the last save and quit or mod restart. I would say using a wand build like this is fair game in a run like this. There are no rules yet so we, the moderators and runners, can just agree if it's fine or not.

  2. The first point already addresses the issue, I don't think backups are needed.

Beyond that, I would say have fun with your run! It's your own self imposed challenge, whatever rules you think make it fun, go by those. Like I said there's no official rules for this at the moment.

Also, I have done this speedrun myself already and no backups or quicksave eggs were needed. I just didn't teleport back to chunks I came from, I knew how to path without backtracking.

Edited by the author 1 year ago
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