Greetings! Sorry if this has been asked somewhere before or is in the wrong place.

One of the boards I moderate often has fairly short runs (Daytona USA, a racing game, with some bonus categories being longer but still the same game) but occasionally I get submissions that sometimes is a 20 minute video that contains a single ~2 minute submission. Other times that same, unedited, video can be submitted on 3 seperate categories because they are all part of a single recording session or stream.

I think it's mostly a "me issue", but nowadays these type of submission have been annoying me, especially when I can tell it's already been edited to add an intro or whatever but still decides not to cut it down into shorter video that focus on the run. It also is annoying to view these videos after the fact for the same reason.

On a somewhat related topic, how do we feel about runs that are just dropped on a Dropbox or Google Drive and linked to the submission? I personally don't like these either, but have accepted nonetheless so far.

Am I just being unreasonably "lazy" here with my complaints? (Absolutely looking for opinions here, so don't hold back if you feel I'm wrong)

Cheers!

Definitely for the most part a question of opinions but there's some real discussion about practicality too, so here are my takes:

1. (With the runs inside a longer video, edited with an intro or otherwise) I happen to be someone who occasionally puts an outro or other music on speedruns, usually for one specific game, because I would like to think I have a small YouTube audience who enjoy the videos a little beyond raw recordings of the correct snippet. That may or may not be reality; I do think runners could make an effort to include timestamps in their links (or description) if the run recording does contain multiple videos, because it can and does confuse new runners about the category (as illogical as that is).

2. (With Dropbox, Google Drive etc..) I only become opposed on boards I moderate to submissions from file sharing if the video cannot be viewed without a download, because it shouldn't be expected that moderators need to download evidence before reviewing it or that runners should need to download runs to improve their efforts. The other problem is that file-sharing, Google drive if it isn't that runner's personal singular account, Dropbox with shared link expiration dates, Apple seed for both of the above problems, Xbox video sharing because Microsoft have been finnicky with uploaded media, all mean that evidence can disappear from the boards sporadically - video sharing websites are tried and tested enough for the most part to safely store evidence on indefinitely. Therefore usually whilst I do verify runs with preview evidence I have sometimes messaged a runner, or added something to their run desc. to ask if they'd consider uploading them to an indefinite video sharing site.

Both of these responses are long and dwell in purely practical terms, I do however understand moderators getting annoyed with it because I've had countless instances where runners aren't especially interested in making the submission useful for others or easy to verify, but it's an indefinite problem, the payoff meaning that if we do tolerate reasonable sloppiness then it becomes easier for people to participate in the leaderboards. But as I've said I think that goes, quite far but, to a point, of practicality. I do understand that the leaderboards (at a basic level) just show verified information about the fastest times the gaming community have produced, any positive impacts that result from that are great but occasionally troublesome to manage like here haha.

Super long response whew, sorry about that.

For the runs, first example of 2 min run in 20m of video with that 2m being the only thing submitted, yeah I've seen those get rejected before. It's one thing I'm definitely OK with, especially since YouTube has a built in editor and Twitch has the Highlighting function. Second example as Dan said would be nice for runners to put in time stamps about when X part of run actually starts or they can always have their links timestamped to start when that category they're submitting for starts.

Second part of posts is pretty close to first response, which is that I've seen runs be rejected if not embedded, which a lot of those Dan mentioned not having any embedding features.

people edit their run video to add an intro? really?

if a submission video has many minutes of nothing related to the run being submitted at the start i verify it like normal but will DM the runner to tell them to not do it in the future because its annoying and slows down verification progress. mentioning that "run starts at x:xx" in the run description is fine too.

videos up on a file sharing website i havent seen but i would probably reject it unless they can give me a proper reason for doing so. specifically if they uploaded it on google drive i must question why not just upload it to youtube? you use the same account for both.

Thanks for the input, all of you! Really appreciate it.

Yeah I'm basically in the spot where I've been questioning some submissions by practicality alone. Like SioN mentioned regarding Google Drive vs. YT that's been my thought process too, especially since I consider videos very valuable and anytime a video expires (has happened before, think it was a YT channel that got deleted for some reason) I typically remove those runs when I notice because even though I may have verified the video at one point, I can't go back and re-check it if it's been removed in case I felt something was off the first time around, but those situations are very rare.

Those submitting do usually provide a timestamp, so that's why I'm still lenient on this even if the video is long or is used multiple times for multiple submissions. But, yes, that's where one user may have an intro or similar, which makes me question why not just use the YT editor to make 3 seperate, focused, videos for your runs? That's when I almost want to reject the submission because I feel like the runner is being lazy not making my life a tiny bit easier, but I feel like I'm turning into a hypcrite with this statement haha :D