jtb made a submission but i'm too lazy to download the video and slap a timer on it. Lets switch to ingame timer XD

Also I can't access genetic's submission to see the ingame timer, twitch being derpy.

I'll go frame count it real quick.

Also notice how this leaderboard has both IGT and RTA: https://www.speedrun.com/bk

fwiw, I am 100% for the leaderboards having both ingame time, and real time displayed, I think the leaderboard positions should be based on RTA time, since dying and loading a save loses no time on the end timer and etc., but for comparison's sake, I think it makes the leaderboards look a lot nicer, especially when I feel like there are at least a few people who value IGT more in this game.

[quote=Grig] I think the leaderboard positions should be based on RTA time, since dying and loading a save loses no time on the end timer and etc.[/quote]

Good point, saving/reloading a game has no effect on the final ingame time that gets shown. So "No saves allowed" should be a rule then.

My newest run I closed the karma window by accident a couple times, so I'm hesitant about making that a rule. I definitely don't think the run should be invalidated just because of that. Watch the reactions, it's clearly real.

And I think RTA should still be the primary timing method used, because that's how basically all speedruns are timed in modern times.

I don't think saving should be banned, I just think that if we want to use IGT as the primary timing method, they should be (as in if you save, your IGT time isn't counted, only your RTA) and/or RTA should determine leaderboard positions for the most part (although I'm open to cases where say someone has really slow loads for no good reason, and their IGT beats WR by a minute, but RTA they're 2 seconds slower, or something)