Turbowarp Cheating Possibility
1 year ago
United States

For individual levels, turbowarp poses a lot of cheating possibility.

Let me explain:

In the turbowarp advanced settings, you can select a specific framerate to play your game at, say 15 fps, or half speed. This allows for more precision on tight jumps, and more strategies that are faster than the current human ones. However, in the video below, I have demonstrated that playing a replay that was recorded in 15fps at full speed results in a correctly working replay. As I said previously, this could result in some TAS-like runs with no way to prove they were cheated, aside from the fact that they were done on turbowarp.

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Vietnam

Well then I guess you need a video proof (but record it while you get the time instead of the replay)

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United States

That sounds good, but what about all the world records that are just replay codes? What should we do with them?

United States

I know it is fairly tedious, but how else would you get proof that the runner is not cheating?

Vietnam

@bringupyourpost I know, it even lags for me sometimes

United States

I understand, it just feels silly that you can literally cheat an entire run with no proof against it

United States

Thats true

United States

This is definitely a problem. Without knowing how to even detect where you are playing, (which influenced the run) there's no way of telling if the person cheated or not

Norway
PolarYt323
Any/All, He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

arnt u allowed to use tas on some runs? a lot of the current wrs use it

Edited by the author 1 year ago
Michigan, USA

@PolarYt323 aren't you trolling? who do you "know," that uses tas?

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Norway
PolarYt323
Any/All, He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

no, the level 5 wr uses tas.

but maybe it doesnt count because of that and is not uploaded on this site

imma check

but the actual wr definitely uses tas

Edited by the author 1 year ago
Norway
PolarYt323
Any/All, He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

yeah 12.9 by thepurplebanana [this is not made by me btw]

[all credit goes to https://scratch.mit.edu/users/thepurplebanana66]

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Germany

yeah but he used pause-buffering, which is a TAS-like strategy. And it was't posted here, so I think he knew it didn't count

also what other WRs on here use TAS?

Vietnam

@PolarYt323 actually WRs in Appel is people speedrunning without the help of tools so TASes aren't counted as WRs, rather they're (TASes) there to find out how fast a level can be beaten

Norway
PolarYt323
Any/All, He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

He used freeze frame

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