Rules for New Category?
1 year ago
United States

Hey folks, I was contacted by Omegacoma about adding a new category for X-Men. Wanted to get opinions on a few questions:

  1. How will the rules differ from Any%? Are we only ruling out Gambit Skip? Can you still skip Juggernaut, Sabretooth, Mojo, etc? How about going out of bounds or clipping using teleport or Iceman?

  2. What should we call the category? Glitchless? 100%? All Levels? No-Gambit-Skip? I guess this depends on what is allowed/disallowed.

What else do we need to consider?

Thanks for your input.

United States

Maybe something like “All Bosses” if you still want to allow glitches?

United States

Nice, I like All Bosses. It implies no Gambit Skip and that Mojo needs to be fought.

Thoughts on mini bosses? Here are the ones I remember:

  • Juggernaut (Savage Lands)
  • Sabretooth (Outside Lighthouse)
  • Juggernaut (Inside Lighthouse, but optional?)

I like the idea of requiring the mini bosses to show as much of the game as reasonable. A nice complement to Any%. That said, I can go either way on the second Juggernaut fight - we've seen him already and I bet he is often skipped/missed even in casual runs.

Do we want to categorize the spaceship ride in Shi'ar as a mini boss? The only reason I bring it up is because Smelly McTroll was working on a way to skip that. As I recall, he was able to teleport past it, but wasn't able to trigger the rest of the level afterward - so, maybe a non-issue for now.

United States

I think all mini bosses with All Bosses route. It’s so easy to glitch out Juggernaut in the savage land, it would be cool to have to fight him the second time around.

I personally don’t think the shuttle is a mini boss, so if someone found a way to skip it, kudos. But I may be in the minority on that one.

Indiana, USA

What's Omegacoma's opinion on rules? If he's going to be the one running it at least to start, I would be curious.

Ohio, USA

I like "All Bosses" that includes the no gambit skip, all bosses and like A-Frame said all mini bosses just to show as much of the game as possible and I wouldnt include the shuttle as a mini boss

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Indiana, USA

Seems good to me

United States

Great, thanks all - I think we're getting close.

Booster, you mentioned that Juggernaut in the Savage Lands can be glitched out - can you elaborate on that?

Doesn't he show up, do a few attacks, and then sometimes just leave? If so, for our rule set, is it only required to spawn him?

United States

Yes, as long as Juggernaut spawns I think that counts. And it may not be a glitch or a despawn because I think you hear a noise when it happens? I don’t remember, it’s been awhile since I played Savage Land.

Ohio, USA

Thanks everyone im glad to see this coming together

United States

All right, I've added the new categories. Can you guys check out the rules to make sure they look good?

I also goofed around with the Juggernaut fight. If you dodge his attacks enough, eventually he just leaves. Maybe there is a way to trigger it quickly - but it is also quite fast to just defeat him with Archangel:

United States

And good luck Omegacoma - looking forward to seeing some runs.

Ohio, USA

Thanks again I will give it my best

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