Left Behind RNG manipulation - by Yoranto
7 years ago
Netherlands

Moved from main boards - Original post by Yoranto;

yo,

okay first of all I want to say that this is really hard to explain, even if I would speak english perfectly so sorry for this long text.

As you guys know, Anthony & me were doing lots of LB Any% Ps4 Easy runs in the last days and we reached a point now, where hundredths of seconds decide over a world record. The first split (Intro/Glitch) is one of the weirdest splits because you are doing the same thing over and over again, but due to different loading times of the items you get different times. Sometimes a 1:46, but a 1:43 is also possible. To be honest it could be that you get a 1:50 and if you do the same thing again you get a 1:43. This means that if you want to do a world record you have to reset until you get good loading times, which is absolutely.. yeah.

Today I (accidently) found out how to manipulate this so you just get 1:43-1:44 instead of 1:43-1:50 times.

Before I start explaining I want to say that I don't have proofs like a video or so, because you can't really show this in a video because your time also depends on your movement before the loading times and how fast you do the glitch, so just try it by yourself. Also I have to say that I'm playing Left Behind on the current version (I think 1.08?) and I have a normal Ps4 (I think the first one you could buy).

So, there are 3 different types of loading times.

When I started runs today, I realized that the first time you start Left Behind the loading time of the items is VERY slow. It was like 5+ seconds slower than in my PB (With perfect movement before, the items spawned in at 1:27, which is +5 or +6 compared to world record, even with perfect movement). Then I played a few hours and this never happened again. Then I went to dinner and after coming back, I restarted my Ps4 and on my first attempt I got a 1:27 bad loading time again. So this is the slowest method to run Left Behind. So this happens when you just started the application and you directly do the skip.

This is the way we did our PBs in the last days. We started the Ps4 and we played Left Behind until we got a new PB, that's it. The items load in at 1:21-1:23, this is why you hear Anthony saying "see the items loaded in at 1:21" in his world record run, because it seemed to be RNG and if you got bad loading times the world record was not possible.

Now today something weird happened to me...

I wanted to do a few attempts today and after playing 1-2 hours I realized, that I just got 1:20-1:21 loading times, sometimes I even got 1:19 loading times which is absolutely crazy fast. In the last days maybe you got a 1:44 first split 20 times out of 100 tries or so, but today I got 1:43 first split 20 times out of 100 tries and the other 80 attempts were 1:44's, so my slowest loading time today was as fast as the fastest loading time from the last days. When I realized that I was completely confused because I didn't know why I got fast loading times. As I said I went to dinner. I came back and restarted my Ps4, played again and... I just got bad loading times (1-3 seconds later spawns of items). Over and over again, just bad loading times. Then I was thinking so hard and then I realized one stupid thing. I did attempts for a few hours today (with good loading times) and because you reset a lot, I was watching videos and streams next to running LB. I remembered, that after a reset I accidently pressed on "Factions MP" instead of "Left Behind" in the main menu. This was the only thing I realized. As I said after restarting my Ps4 I just got bad loading times again and the Factions thing was the only difference I remembered from earlier today, so I went on Factions again, went back to the main menu and started a run and ... I always got good loading times again. Sorry for this long explanation but I didn't know how to explain this in another way. So you get the best loading times when your attempt is not the 1st attempt (so until the 2nd attempt you get good loading times) and when you pressed on Factions before that.

All in all there are 3 types.

  1. Slow loading: on your 1st attempt, directly after you started the ps4
  2. Normal loading: on your 2nd, 3rd, 4th.... attempt
  3. Fast loading: on your 2nd, 3rd, 4th... attempt, when you were in Factions before

I hope this is it. I hope this works for you, too. As I said I have the normal Playstation 4 and the TLoU disc version with the newest patch.

Now at the end I thought about different things: 1st: This would mean that soon a world record in Left Behind {Any%|Ps4} is not possible without having Ps+, because if you can't go on factions you get bad loadings and with bad loadings a record won't be possible. 2nd: What about the main game? Maybe the factions thing influences the glitches or the loadings in the main game, too.

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