Hello everyone. Rumia is cute.
I heard a discussion on another game about the pros and cons of using a turbo controller. Rapid fire is also very important for speedruns in this game. But it hurts your fingers and some people may not be able to do it due to their physical handicap.
If someone wants to do a run of this game using autofire, I am thinking of creating a new category to separate them. Also if you have already posted a run and are using autofire let me know.
I'd like to hear your opinions. This text is in English, but I can respond in Japanese and other languages with machine translation to some extent. Please let me know what you think.
This text is a translation of the above post into Japanese. If you can read English, you don't need to read this one.
皆さんこんにちは。ルーミアかわいい。
別のゲームで連射器の使用の是非に関する議論を聞きました。 このゲームのRTAも連射がとても重要です。しかし手連は指を痛めるし、身体的ハンデでできない人もいるかもしれません。
もし連射器を用いてこのゲームのRTAをやりたい人がいるなら、新しくカテゴリーを作って分けようと考えています。 また既にランを投稿していて、それが連射器を使っているのならば私に知らせてください。
皆さんの意見を聞きたいです。 この文は日本語ですが、英語や他の言語でも機械翻訳である程度は応対できます。 よろしくお願いします。
Rumia is cute.
I think a separate category for auto fire might be fine, however there is already a way to auto fire in a normal run when collecting yellow potions. It is a strange case with autofire also being a setting in game, but with this mashing is still required for melee attacks. With my testing on Reimu's first hp bar using the setting for auto fire came out around the same time for when mashing without (both in the 10 second range). Using the auto fire from 1 yellow potion was 9 seconds but mashing with 1 yellow potion i got 8 seconds. Testing with 3 yellow potions had the same results as with 1. So in conclusion I'm not sure if the setting needs to be a separate category although it is possible to auto fire without it and just getting a single yellow potion so it might be good to separate them. (Edit: Tested in Switch version, results were pretty much the same in PC, can't test ps4 version as I do not own one) (I will also still mash I enjoy the pain :) )
I think a turbo controller should be considered tool assisted especially if it mashes faster than humanly possible.
Rumia Cute. After doing a full run with the auto fire setting I have no problem with it being allowed it puts you at a disadvantage and hitting the button is still required to melee. When holding the button with auto fire it prevents you from air dodging and rolling (The animation for rolling is still played but cuts out and does not function)
Turbo Controllers should still be considered tool assisted.
Very detailed testing, thanks!
I haven't had any problems with rapid fire without the turbo controller. You can mash and aim for the fastest speed with hurt fingers, or you can go the route of drinking yellow potions and focusing on something other than rapid fire.
I agree with you that the turbo controller is a tool assist. It's not allowed in the normal category, but I'm ready to have a separate category for it if someone wants to use it.
ご意見ありがとうございます。
差し当たり現カテゴリーでは連射器は禁止の旨をルールに追記した上で、カテゴリーの追加・変更はなし。 もし連射器を希望する走者が現れた場合は応相談、 仮にその後新規追加することになった場合も、Misc枠を作ってまとめて入れるくらいにしようかと思っています。 (この場合現在のリーダーボードから右端に1つ増えるだけです)
応相談ではなく完全に禁止でもいいのかもしれませんが、そこはまだ決めかねています。
皆様ご意見ありがとうございます。
まず通常カテゴリーでの連射器の使用はNGという認識で一致しているので、 こちらはルールに追記します。
連射器使用の要望に関してはいったんは応相談にしたいと思います。 まだ希望者が現れるかどうかもわからないのと、参加のハードルは不公平が起きない範囲で低くしたいという考えです。
Thank you all for your feedback.
First of all, we all agree that the use of turbo controllers in the normal category should not be allowed, so I will add this to the rules.
As for the request to use the turbo controller, we will discuss it once. We are still unsure if anyone will want to use it, and we want to keep the barriers to participation as low as possible without causing unfairness.
Rumia is cute.