3ds TAS Progression
1 year ago
New Jersey, USA

Wanted to show off the 3ds TAS I've worked on a bit, finishes City world. From what I can see, you can't exit to Seaside early, you have to play all the City levels. If anyone finds something faster please let me know so I can redo the section. Thanks, and happy new years!

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New Jersey, USA

I figured I should list some things I noticed, but most is nothing new.

There are a few interesting glitches/bugs used throughout the game. Cutscenes only play if you're grounded, so you can delay them (sometimes skip them completely) by jumping the frame/a few frames before before they activate. That's most notable in "Rocks In Your Head" (the level after Under & Over) because you get the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd cutscene to play back to back to back, and with the balls platform lowering. The same is true for the fall damage animation, you can walk and jump for a tiny bit before it plays, do that for the duration of the animation and you get no recoil (done in first level and Tin Can Alley). While watching the PSP Any% IL, this wasn't done, so more time could be shaved off of those (you can basically spam jump and get it RTA) ::EDIT: It's actually a lot easier to spam and get it on 3ds than on PSP. It's a lot trickier on PSP, but possible.

For cutscene triggers that you walk into, you can crush during their intro to save some small time (first level). In Nasty Things the cockroach moves very slow, and only dies if he's on screen and on bricks. That's why crushing the first doesn't kill him, and I have to wait for him to walk out of the hole. In some areas you can crush while falling, if you go from Falling -> Grounded -> Falling fast enough. It's only used once here (in Upstairs, Downstairs) but will be done in later levels as well.

Edited by the author 11 months ago
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Georgia, USA

yo this is super awesome!!!!! so cool to see someone tasing crush !! i didnt know about the fall damage animation thing, thats really neat !! :O cant wait to see more :]

New Jersey, USA

Hints of a Debug Mode and Level Editor

In the romFs of the 3ds version, there's a cfg file suggesting a debug mode (as well as functions within the code stating the same). Weirdly the file had the debug mode set to true. There could be a code still in the game to activate it, but I don't think we'll ever find it out unless someone knows how to fully decompile the game.

I tried changing various settings in the config but they don't do anything, so it's certainly an activation thing.

New Jersey, USA

Potential hint for accessing debug mode

I went back and reread the config file in case I missed something obvious, and it seems I did. based on this, there was a "debug pad" for the 3ds that they used during development. if we could know what exactly that is, and hack in a way to hit debug pad buttons, it'd be lovely (if it's not referring to something completely unrelated)

It's so unlikely that any normie from anywhere would know where to get one but dude it'd be so cool to access something like that. there's stuff about a level editor too, so i think they were gonna implement it then decided against it (or it's just a remnant of the PSP version, because of how similar these two are)

New Jersey, USA

Today, the citra (3ds) and yuzu (Switch) emulators were shut down by Nintendo. This won't stop me from working on the TAS, as I already have citra. It's sad the original developers have to stop working on it, but from what I can see citra is unaffected. People who've forked it can continue working on it, as only the original devs have to stop.

Anyway, it's not devastating for me, but it does leave a sour taste in my mouth.

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New Jersey, USA

i need me some citra

New Jersey, USA

@golderzoa, I just posted my version of Citra if you don't wanna go scouring on archive.org.

https://www.speedrun.com/crush/resources/xtpel

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New Jersey, USA

@inconsistent your a legend thanks so much!

New Jersey, USA

@inconsistent i've been working on Crush3D you can steal some stuff from there. i got playlists full of stuff also feel free to contact me if you need other help.

Edited by the author 4 months ago
New Jersey, USA

@golderzoa Cool, I haven't had much time to work on it if you didn't notice already. I'll try to get on it end of this year/start of next year. Maybe you'll develop more strats by then :)

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New Jersey, USA

probably just shoot me a message i'm usually down to route

New Jersey, USA

There's a new release candidate for BizHawk, 2.10. I resynced that TAS to it since it has more accurate emulation. And if you want to fool around with TAS tools yourself there's a .lua I made as well as the bk2 at TASVideos.org.

Anyway, I found a ton of improvements to save ~10 seconds. The biggest improvement was that you don't actually have to kill the roach in Nasty Things, you can just walk past it given you avoid its collision. I also skipped through the cutscenes faster in The Basics, and a cool corner jump in Gathers No Moss. I made a sheet showing the specific timesaves.

Sadly the one thing I couldn't get to work were double jumps. I know they were found recently so I wanted to give it a try in this version, but it seems to be patched.

New Jersey, USA

Double Jumps Work by pressing The Jump Button Again at the end of where your jump would end. you can mash it to get it work too if you feel lazy. i'm surprised i optimized GNM so much. oh double jumps only work on psp version

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