I'd like everyone's thoughts on changing NG and even NG+ to only do the Chapter 7 Inferno fight. Maybe not for NG, but I'm strongly in favor of it for NG+. Simply because of the first stage of chapter 10 is such BS. Plus the point of the run is to go as fast as possible and kill Inferno. Chapter 7 is naturally faster and that stage is way easier and not run killer.

I had done runs and submitted but deleted as Baja pointed out others for NG did both Inferno fights. I only did Chapter 7's Inferno. For everyone's sanity I believe 7 should be the end.

Additionally I don't know if anyone else noticed it, but I'm convinced more runs you finish on NG+. The harder the stages get if so that is incredibly stupid because you need to beat NG every time before a NG+ to get the easier AI.

I'd personally say no, if only because Chapter 10 Inferno is the "final boss" and removing something you don't like feels cheap. Plus, the way it is now also adds in the traditional "see the credits" type condition which I like

I agree with @sesonmer13_2. There's no reason to change when Weapon Master ends since we all know that it ends after you beat the last inferno and the credits roll. If we change it, then I feel like we are being cheap about the conditions to beat the game. Also, just remove your memory card when doing NG and put your memory card back in when doing NG+. That should be able to help a little bit. Another good idea is to have like another category for Weapon Master but have called "Chapter 7 Inferno End." This new category could be a good idea in order to have more players try out Weapon Master Speedruns and eventually do full runs.

It's stopping me from running the game because I was doing 7 Inferno and thought that was the end. However the Chapter 10 fight where you don't heal and fight several enemies on NG+. Only to lose like 100 times yeah that's fun but that doesn't happen on Ch. 7.

I can't just remove my memory card as I play on Xbox 360/Xbox One. Soulcalibur II since is BC and not a base 360 game or game normally compatible like SC II HD. You can't just back up SC II SD save to USB. Original Xbox game saves sure are on the HDD, but not transferable. I did backup SC II HD when it's fresh NG+ as maybe that's easier than when they're all blue. But again that stupid stage is literally making the game unplayable for me. Can't stand even touching weapon master now because of the AI and some stages being horrendous. If it's only Ch. 7 it's way more bearable to run if it's another variable or category like Weapon Master Any% along with NG and NG+.

Yeah, if you can't deal with the AI, then just make another category for Weapon Master called "Chapter 7" or "First Inferno." However, this new category shouldn't be called "Any%" because you are not even beating the game, and it ends midway. This new category is similar to Wind Waker Runs for Master Sword only. You don't beat the game, but make it to the half-way point of the real category. I don't think that we should compromise the name of a category if it doesn't describe what it really is. Also, a point to note, NG for Weapon Master is literally Any% since we beat the game as fast as possible and make it to the credits.

Can we toss some ideas for the category name I know it would definitely be Misc.

• Ch. 7 Inferno
• Chapter 7
• First Inferno
• Weapon Master Early Inferno I believe you mean NG+ since NG does Ch. 9 and and Ch. 5. Where NG+ is more like Any% as you just go thru a straight line to Ch. 10 Inferno.

I think "Weapon Master Early Inferno" is pretty good for the category name. Also, the name sounds pretty cool.

Alrighty added in misc and will do for JPAL and HD later.

If that's how it's worded, that implies "Early Inferno" is a glitch of some kind imo

Okay then Weapon Master First Inferno.