Hi FSA community,

I've been exploring potential timesaves for glitchless with a maneuver I'm sure someone else has used at some point before. This movement doesn't seem intended by the developers, nor does it feel much like a glitch either. It goes like this:

I separate and move a Link to a platform corner, then press X four times to precisely position Link in a square and reunite with Y. All four stand in one spot, and I press X again. Then I move Link diagonally away from the corner and he pushes the other three so they are standing in the exact middle point where edges meet pits.

With this, I've been able to do two major level skips:

• Key block skip in 5-3 by hitting a normally out of reach peg
• Roc's feather skip in 8-1 using C-right reunion

The roc's feather skip is actually still possible without this movement but it's much easier with it. Please let me know before I start doing full game runs with these shortcuts.

I ultimately think it is up to you if you think it is okay or not. Since you do the gap skips in other levels with reuniting, the 8-1 skip seems to fall vaguely in that category. The 5-3 skip is different but I think it is up to you if you want to include it or not.

Hi NaviLyn,

I did some thinking and decided that I consider this technique a glitch. I noticed doing this in 8-1 with Green standing on the very corner of the cloud, switching from him to go to Purple usually caused Green to fall in the pit, and that should not happen.

Switching to a different Link moves the one switched from to the middle of the square he mostly occupied, which to me indicates a hover if he falls in a pit. As for the 5-3 skip, there was no other way to do it without other glitches so I'll maintain the route I currently use. I don't know if you saw but I did find a way to do the room with the Deku's pushable room faster using a glitchless gap skip, and now have a PB of 7:56 for 5-3 glitchless!