What do you guys think of turbo controllers?
3 months ago
Canada

I'm submitting an absolute killer for SMB2's '1-1 Dream Run' that... well it'll be in the description but I wound up accidentally figuring out a new technique that enabled a pretty damn crushing time. I used my slime controller's (ow my hands) turbo functionality at the end to simplify the grab-release-grab of the third egg and sphere but otherwise this doesnt require it. I actually used the controller's turbo on SMB2's 'Door to Door' because I was getting tired trying to nail the frame perfect entry and it STILL took a few tries because I guess the turbo is only pressing the button every 2.5 frames? Then I wound up doing it first try in survival mode's gold division this week lol.

Anyway, after this happened, I checked and it doesnt look like this is expressly against any rules but I'm sure it wont sit well with everyone and just wanted to make sure I'm being fully transparent about it. I have no reason not to and I must submit this to show the tech, I think some of you are gonna like this one lol

I haven't given enough thought to where else turbo would particularly come in handy or even be significantly more reasonable than without it - maybe climbing the air in Donkey Kong's first level. I can't do that for the life of me.

EDIT: I've since done it without the turbo controller and even managed to figure out a simple setup for future runners so if my submission doesn't get approved I'll simply do it again - have to record from start to finish though if it doesnt beat my personal best lol

Edited by the author 3 months ago
Austria

this is not tech this is just cheating

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Canada

I haven't even shown it to you yet, brother! But I appreciate the input. I will have something more palatable prepared if this gets rejected.

Oregon, USA

From watching several of the top tier submission videos, I kinda feel like there's definitely some turbo usage going on out there. Like I see this insane mashing, and things happening fast, but when I mash things happen slower.

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Japan

There are notable examples where using a turbo controller can produce records that cannot be beaten by rapid fire using human power.

https://x.com/i/status/1815896161670291564

However, my turbo controller is 20fps, so I think it's possible to beat it with rapid fire human power.

It would be much harder if I had a 30fps turbo controller.

Edited by the author 3 months ago
Canada

@NeSs7or9 can you not just remap multiple buttons to the same input in the Switch settings? I forgot if you can do it to like, the right stick but I had an idea that I would just map the entire stick to B and then just rotate it when I want that speed

@pirohiko thats a spicy meatball! Also I recognize your name from some TAS videos ive watched, cheers friend!

I appreciate the insight. Something unlocked in me yesterday and I think I've got the sauce to keep going and solutions to mash faster. In this particular case its less about the speed and more about casting a wider net of inputs to better hit the earliest ones.

Edited by the author 3 months ago
Canada

Its been verified! While its up please enjoy my story about it in the description, it was completely sick and accidental LMAO

I am going to get into contact with whoever verified it because I just now managed to do it without a turbo controller and even tied the time I just did so I can finally rest it on this trial. I knew it wouldn't take long.

Anyway the tech is to grab the egg on the way UP when you jump. This enables you to grab, throw, and grab the sphere all in the same jump. At this point I've worked out fairly exact timings to pull this off with.... enough consistency. Will detail it in the revised, non-turbo upload.

EDIT: Everything is sorted, 'purified' PB is uploaded and replaced the turbo one.

Edited by the author 3 months ago
United Kingdom

@pirohiko I don't think you can get 30fps turbo controllers also I can tap faster then 20fps.

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Canada

You can play this with the Switch NES controller 'joycon' right? Thinking about Tetris hypertapping lol

Oregon, USA

I've been playing with the Switch NES controller.

Canada

My brain is smooth. I completely forgot there's an SMB2 trial thats just the Birdo fight. I would have seen the egg grab+sphere grab in one jump there instead of stumbling into it in my 1-1 Dream Run misadventures. I tried using my turbo controller again to see if it was possible to get a better time than the one I just set but to my dismay, the turbo controller was not executing everything as early as possible for me. I'm not sure if the Slime controller simply isnt fast enough or what but now it seems that my general timing previously was also quite lucky because I just couldn't reproduce an ideal grab+throw+grab with it again.

Oh well, I did submit another banger for 'Egg Toss' and took the chance to style on Birdo for good measure. I think I'm gonna give that 'Z2 Firefight' trial a go and try to manually reproduce what Pirohiko posted. I feel like I could if I remap a couple buttons in the switch's settings.

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