self-explanatory. Could be interesting. Already done by like 4 people too lol.

Very interesting, I'm gonna be waiting for that 1 guy who'll 1 attempt 100% in the next 10 years

This category would not be enjoyable.

I swear there used to be a thread that requested this exact same category. In any case, we're not adding this for a multitude of reasons.

what are the reasons

1. It clashes with the other categories on the leaderboard. All full-game categories involve completing a multitude of levels in normal mode. This is trying to beat a single level in practice mode as fast as possible. You could argue that it would be fine if it was an IL but...
2. There's little to no depth to it. All individual levels are some sort of minigame, most with an in-game timer. In these levels, there is actual depth to it, where certain strategies save time over others. In Silent Circles, the only way you can save time is by not dying.
3. Resize bug trivializes competition. You can skip all the high-CPS parts by abusing a glitch. Essentially, a run would just involve playing half of the level and skipping the rest. There's already people who have substantial progress on the wave, so it would be nearly maxed out. You could argue that this should be banned for this category only. Firstly, why ban a glitch in a single category when the entire board allows it? Secondly, having to spend hours on an impossible 2-player mini wave spam corridor could be considered trivial. There's nothing skillful or interesting about it. It's just luck.
4. It's not a rated level. Every category on this leaderboard involves beating a rated level.
5. Every speedrun of this level nerfs the level. This is done because Player 2's wave can't buffer inputs while respawning from a checkpoint. The level being 2-player is a core part of what makes Silent Circles so infamous. If the only way you can do the speedrun is by editing and nerfing the level, then it is an innately flawed idea. You can also just place checkpoints where Player 1 can buffer and Player 2 can't (whenever both players are moving up). Sure it drastically increases the time it takes to do the run, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

Lastly, no one in our community seems interested in the idea, at least in my experience. No one in our Discord server has discussed it, and the people who have requested it in the forums don't have runs of their own. The only reason this category has this level of popularity is solely because of three big-name YouTubers. Only four people did the run, and even if we did add the category, there's no guarantee that they'll submit the runs or that they will even be allowed (see Reason 5). I personally don't believe that most runners will attempt this. I've seen meme categories get added to leaderboards only for them to die out immediately. This is a fad.

As a speedrunning leaderboard, we should have standards. At best, this is something that would be in a category extensions leaderboard, and even that's pushing it, in my eyes.

1/2. Just because a category is different doesn't make it bad. You could make it a category extension if you want or a miscellaneous category

3. Just don't allow the resize bug???

4. same as 1/2, and silent circles is way more popular and famous than any of the levels on the leaderboard

5. this is a valid point but personally I think it's not as big of a deal - it's still incredibly hard and impossible in normal mode

6. No one has discussed it because it's not a category yet

1. I've already discussed why we can't just add the category. Even as a miscellaneous category, it would still be very out of place in this leaderboard. All miscellaneous categories still share things in common, like being more than one rated level. Again, we don't even have a category extension leaderboard, and if we were to make one, we would need multiple reasonable categories with multiple runs in each. Having just one category ran by four people at most doesn't cut it.
2. I have already explained that doing so would make the category trivial and luck-based.
3. Just because a level is popular doesn't give it a free pass.
4. It is a very big deal. You're not speedrunning Silent Circles by Cyrillic. You're speedrunning "Silent Circles but I nerfed it". Besides, if we allowed people to edit the level, who's to say this won't be abused to nerf the level even more?
5. This doesn't make sense. My point was that almost no one was specifically requesting this category to be a thing. Why would people discuss a category that has already been added? Are you suggesting that the only way to generate discussion of a category is to randomly add it?

Hate to bring this back from the dead, but 2.2 fixed the 2-player buffer bug (at least on iOS). So now there’s 0 excuse to delete the dual wave. Furthermore, Window Resize got patched, and if you think that somehow makes it better, refer to the point I made about triviality.

This category is still never getting added and I have yet to see an actual authentic run.

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