These are serious accusations, we will double-check runs and the ability to make such jumps, but as far as I remember, I saw such jumps in tas, we are always for honesty in speedruns

AlphaNerd cannot be trusted, he is crazy and unhinged! reported to moderator HosteL

Whatever it was intentional or not, it's weird that I cannot find a run or a playthrough of someone who knows the game very well, who uses these kind of short jumps. And I'm pretty sure I never saw it before today. I don't feel like it's legit, especially if it's an emulator only thing, which cannot be replicated on arcade machine (I play on emulator, but I never used such jumps, nor add a 3rd button to allow me new things you can't do on arcade machine). I don't know if it deserves a ban from the leaderboard yet (Moderators will choose the final decision), but imo this run should be removed, and rules have to be changed, to specify you shouldn't add a 3rd button if you're playing on emulator.

(Also, do not bother about the message above me... It seems to be a weird rabbit hole, with another person named AlphaNerd, totally unrelated to speedrunning it seems... This account was just created today btw...)

MsTruffles this is the same Alphanerd , he stalks people who beat his records , and he beat his ex wife

Well please leave me out of this... I don't have the mental energy to deal with this kind of stuff... I was just responding to give my opinion about these accusations, and now I'm waiting for mods response.

Tomorrow we will do everything, today I work 24 hours, and JosephHTobinJr participates in Big20, we will test everything and think it over, we will add the rules so that everyone is on an equal footing.

I just made a video about this case, to show all the elements I found, and tell my opinion. It might be not perfect. Explanations are a bit messy sometimes, since I wasn't supposed to record a video today, and my brain was foggy. But I hope it will help people to understand this case better (At least from my perspective).

"StinkySteven" is a youtube harasser/doxxer who just created an account to harass AlphaNerd, one of the most classy dude I've ever known. Please report that account and ignore.

I just remembered HosteL said there might be short jumps in TAS. I checked it out, and it's true. You can see it here: But the fact I still didn't find any RTA runs/gameplay by human player where you can see these kind of jumps, make me doubt about the fact it's a legit thing in the original game.

You 100% cannot do short jumps with the 2 button arcade original verison. Only emulation can thus be done. And legit verison like the ps4 version by Konami its NOT possible

Так я все проверил, в оригинальных аркадных автоматах было всего 2 кнопки что показывает нам мануал к автомату https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-videogames/Y/YieArKung-Fu.pdf , точно не известно откуда взялась 3 кнопка, возможно разработчики хотели добавить 2 типа прыжков в оригинал но в какой то момент отказались по не известным причинам, но в образе игры кнопка осталась и теперь при помощи эмуляции мы можем ее нажимать) , так как не на оригинальном автомате и на версиях на других платформах мы не можем это повторить то это будет не честно, так что предлагаю сделать так внести в правила что нельзя будет использовать эту кнопку , отследить ее использования не составит труда, ну или если вдруг у вас есть желание можно сделать отдельную категорию для таких ранов в misc.

So I checked everything, in the original arcade machines there were only 2 buttons, which shows us the manual for the machine https://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals-videogames/Y/YieArKung-Fu.pdf, it is not known exactly where the 3rd button came from , perhaps the developers wanted to add 2 types of jumps to the original, but at some point they refused for unknown reasons, but the button remained in the image of the game and now we can press it using emulation), since not on the original machine and on versions on other platforms we can’t repeat this, it won’t be fair, so I propose to make it so that it will not be possible to use this button in the rules, it will not be difficult to track its use,well, or if you suddenly have a desire, you can make a separate category for such wounds in misc.

По поводу ivanpaduano, не вижу что бы он пытался намеренно обмануть нас, когда играешь в игру меньше всего думаешь сколько там кнопок было в оригинале), ну а потом правилами на тот момент это не было запрещено, так что никакой вины его в этом я не вижу, его runs будет либо перемещен либо удален в зависимости что вы решите с категориями.

Regarding ivanpaduano, I don’t see that he would deliberately try to deceive us, when you play the game, you least of all think how many buttons there were in the original), well, then the rules at that time didn’t prohibit it, so I don’t blame him for this I see his runs will either be moved or removed depending on what you decide with the categories.

Ну и еще добавил платформы которые отсутствовали.

Well, I also added platforms that were missing.

His run should be removed. If he is good at the game. He should able to play with 2 buttons like everyone else on the internet. Konami didn't include the short jumping because after testing it made the game to easy. And arcade games are supposed to make money and be hard. Since he is the only one to sneek this in , just remove his run. And he can run the game agian using the original controls. And update the rules, 2 buttons controls only, no 3rd button short jumping for ppl using mame.

Can we just ban Alpha, inform Ivan of any rule changes or clarifications to differences in emulation and move on from this ridiculously inappropriate use of the forum space.

Darth if someone cheated to beat you using a mame trick thats not from the original game to beat one of your world records , would you not be annoyed and a but upset? I just want things to be fair and the rules to be updated and his run removed. That is all. You would want the same is this happend to you. I understand when I 1st Commented I was very angry and speaking kinda crazy about the situation but I have since claimed down about it. Even even beat his time legit and just want what's fair to me and the the runner on the leaderbored. Saying ban me cause this form bothers you , that's ridiculous. You are a great runner and I'm shocked you can't put yourself in my shoes and understand why I'm bothered by this

Thats the last thing I have to say on the matter. Alot of my frustration is also related to a my frustration of a exterm amount of cheating runs on this site.

Emulation on PC should have its own category IMO. Keyboard use, MAME options, and rom hacks are giving an unfair advantage, depending on the game.

Credit to Ivan he just beat my time with the original gaming mechanics 431 ish. So well done. I'm sure he was grinding all night. Glad I could motivate him. But i will say GGs on his run as it's proper legit and fast. Well done