Greece@iiSalad To me personally I would put Plat RTA to CE since it's used only for fun like you said, rather than leaving it in Misc. But we'll see how it will turn out in the end.
I also I completely agree about All ASS and All Puzzles, that it should end at last member/Sephiroth and completing the last puzzle. To me doing end game brings nothing to those categories and it's just a waste of time. Although I will keep in mind that when people were doing those for fun they ended the run at Final Xemnas and I respect that decision, so we'll decide once we see how other people feel about it. Thanks for your feedback, appreciate it ! :D
@desa3579 Platinum Trophy RTA would probably be it's own tab like Any% on the main game website.But we'll debate that once feedback is over (even though I think that it doesn't make sense to put it in CE since it's only for fun categories like Puzzle%) Misc is gonna stay were it is, we just want to re-work it a little bit since we felt it's a little bit all over the place (like the rest of the website lol).
We'll also consider about the 2/3 runner rule which makes sense for sure. Also, like I said before, we will not add categories prematurely and without proper feedback. These categories are just ideas and have a chance to either being put in the main KH2 website or in CE, which means that we'll not add every single idea most likely. Thanks for your feedback :D
@RioPeace We'll keep that in mind thanks !
@LiquidWiFi All good! Thanks for the positive feedback :D
@JHobz you are completely right! Messed up when I was writing that thanks. We are gonna be careful and if you see something that's odd please tell me or the rest of the mod team :D
@Timmiluvs yeah I get that. It's just a shame that we want to try to make everything better and suddenly this forum post gets out of hand. It kinda frustrates me cause we put a lot of time and thought into everything. I guess it's fine now and hopefully the situation cools down a bit
Also I love how almost everybody says nothing about the forum post and starts arguing about something we mods haven't even talked about :D
@LiquidWiFi If we ever consider to ban CoR skip which I think we'll never do since I know most people are against it, we would ofc ask runners who routed Gold Crown for their opinions. Thanks for your post.
At best I would put Gold Crown with the skip to CE. But again that's just me. And I'm not the only one who has to decide for that. If we ever thought about it and the community said no we wouldn't do it. Also we never said that we are going to add all categories. That's up to the community.
I can see both sides saying something in favor. Also there was never a debate between mods to ban CoR skip. For me personally I would cause what's the point in doing Gold Crown with the skip and not do just Silver Crown? For me that's just a waste of time. If people want to do it so be it I don't have anything against that.
@KBM I hard agree that we should ban CoR skip since it just doesn't feel right and it's the easy way out. But that's just me, other people find the trick appealing so I don't know. We would probably start arguing and basically never stop.
Greetings everyone! We are grateful that we have been given the mod role for the KH2 leaderboards. We will all do our best to fulfil our role as moderators to the benefit of the community. In light of this, we wish to make modifications and changes to the KH2 speedrunning scene.
FIRST and foremost we would like to make some beneficial changes to the leaderboard layout:
New KH2 Category Extentions: We want to fill KH2 Category Extentions with more categories that are just for fun.
Miscellaneous: We want to fill Miscellaneous with runs that don't start the timer at the title screen (ex. Data Org, CoR, Hades Paradox,and Mushroom 13 RTA) and remove those that do (ex. Platinum Trophy RTA)
Gold Crown / Silver Crown: We want to add a Dropbox for the Crown categories to clean up Leaderboards. (like the Misc tab ALL crowns will have ALL difficulties available.
'More...': We want to change standard and proud from being classified as misc sub-categories on the Leaderboards as it makes it tedious to view all categories/consoles and somewhat downgrades categories/consoles that are hidden. Draz has already done this so let us know what you think.
SECOND,We wish to add new categories to the website, the categories presented are categories we believe would be a good edition. ALL of these categories will be voted upon by you, the community. The categories that receive the most votes and positive feedback will be implemented. People can also introduce their own category ideas! We will not force any of the below mentioned categories to the Leaderboards. New Category Ideas:
Puzzle% : Collect all puzzle pieces and complete all puzzles. Timer ends either when Mickey Symbol pops up or Xemnas is done (To Be Discussed).
All Super Bosses% : Beat ALL Superbosses in the game. Timer ends when you kill the last boss available.
Keyblade% : Acquire all Keyblades the game can offer. Timer ends when you collect the last keyblade available.
Bronze Crown% : Ends either when you do Lingering Will/Data Org/Mushrooms (3 Different Sub categories).
Most Worlds% : Complete all worlds other than OaW/Atlantica. Timer ends at Final Xemnas kill.
Underdrome RTA : Complete all cups for the Underdrome in Olympus Coliseum (OC) when talking to Panic. Timer starts after first cup is selected, Timer ends when you finish the last round for the run.
100 Acre Woods RTA : Complete the entire book (Doesn't include first visit (Hollow Bastion 2). Timer starts when you enter the book, Timer ends when you get the Orichalcum+.
All ASS% : Beat Sephiroth and all Absent Silhouettes. Timer ends when you beat Sephiroth or Final Xemnas (To Be Discussed).
No Abilities % : Complete the run without equipping any Abilities on Sora. (For Lv1 equipping No Experience is required).
LASTLY, we want to change/add some things on the website (for example Guides). KH2 SR Website:
Guides: The guides have been abandoned and we wish to revive the section of the website with updated Menu notes and Speedrun guides.
Resources: The 'Splits' Section should be filled with blank splits for all categories (Worlds Splits & Sub Splits). The 'Tools' Section should be filled with differing links such as speedrunning timers, recording/streaming software. The 'Saves' and 'Patches' Sections should be removed as we are unable to provide anything for these sections.
Rules: The rules will be looked over and re-worked to benefit the community and make it harder to abuse.
THESE are the changes that we wish to implement in the near future. But we don't want to do this alone!
We welcome the community to help bring forth ideas and changes they would like to see, as well as assisting in the creation of new category ideas and the management of the resources/guides, as we believe there are many detailed and well made documents that will benefit being shown to the public. Please give us constant feedback on the changes we want to make as well as any potential changes that we might not have presented. Don't hesitate to provide documents and ideas for review but do so in a reasonable manner. Remember, we are all on the same team and we need to work together for the community to advance.
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@Gaerys09 yo ! This is a very good Guide made by the current WR holder. It's really detailed and you'll learn a lot. Also I would start out with Beginner so you learn the basics and later on you can switch to more difficult Categories. You can also ask me on Discord or people in the KH Community Discord for help and more informations ^_^
For anybody who wonderes what's going on right now, we discussed a lot and we think that we found a very good solution to all of this and we will announce as soon as we are ready with the little details that are left. Personally I think the idea is really good and it could work if we take the right directions and steps. We are excited and can't wait to show you guys our plan.
Thanks to the KH Community again and I'm honored to be one of the new KH3 mods. If anybody has questions about routing/strats for the game or basic questions feel free to ask me in the KH Speedrun Community Discord or just send me a personal message.
