FR NG+ Questions
3 years ago
United States

Hello,

I was wondering if there would be interest in creating a ruleset for a FR NG+ category, as I personally am interested in running something like it. While there are already rules for the DS version for NG+, from my understanding you could not do a NG+ following the current Any% route, and so you'd have to do a completely separate playthrough. I was wondering if a NG+ ruleset could have no restrictions on it at all, and be a way to show off how fast the game could go when everything is used optimally. This is open for discussion of course but I think that everything should be allowed in NG+, except for foods that boost attack outside what would happen in a normal run. All equipment, even NG+ only equipment, any pins, anything, would be used to make the game as fast as possible. I think the route could be really fun given that it would be about optimizing battles given a large repertoire of choices, and seeing how fast the game could get when you really optimize. Let me know your thoughts on this if you have any!

ThatOnePundit likes this
Canada

I'm for this. NG+ with no restrictions, just beat the game as fast as possible. The aim is for pure speed. I feel more people will do this than the current Any% Normal rules, which feel way too restrictive. Also, you can do this using a 100% savefile.

  • Easy difficulty allowed.
  • Grinding to 100 ATK/DEF and 999 BRV is allowed. Partners can have all 9 ATK/DEF stickers.
  • All pins and equips allowed. Note that the game itself only gives a single copy of certain equips, like the secret report items and red quest items.
  • Character switching allowed.

Specific run rules:

  • Before timing starts, show character equips and pin decks. These may obviously change, but they are shown so that we know what's being used on W1D1.
  • Timing starts when W1D1 is selected with the chapters menu. After this, using the chapters menu is disallowed.
  • Timing ends when the final fusion pin is pressed.
Edited by the author 3 years ago
United States

I’d be down for this rule set! Seems like a good way to not be hung up on rules and also see how fast the game can get. Showing off pins and equipment I feel like is a good idea too.

Kentucky, USA

I think a NG + run with as few restrictions as possible would be great! It be interesting to see how much things will change and how fast the game can be beaten.

magicalmace likes this
Barcelona, Catalonia

There's been interest in an unrestricted NG+ in the past so I think it's worth having on the leaderboards. If anyone records a succesful run in any version I'll add it as a category, since I don't really want it to be empty at the start.

No need to show equipment in the VOD, only rule is that every end-of-day screen must be reached, timing begins at selecting W1D1 from the menu and ends at the usual point. Let the arms race begin.

magicalmace likes this
United States

Just completed my first run of NG+%! It was fun to be overpowered as heck and just breeze right through the game, although I did learn about some "fun" bugs like sometimes the game deciding to not proceed to the next day on its own and a fun visual glitch with Draco Cantus. Final time was 1:43:48, so much shorter than Any%, and I believe the time could be shrunk down easily with different and new strats. It'll be fun labbing stuff to see what could be faster! Here's the VOD if you wanted to watch before it's up on leaderboard

Canada

Congrats!

This is what NG+ should be: just having fun with the most broken setups possible. Yes, every fight becomes trivial and ends in a few seconds, but that's the point. It's not about fighting, it's about optimizing your movements in order to squeeze a couple seconds saved here and there. I'll give DS NG+ a try this weekend, as I still have a 100% savefile somewhere.

There's a glitch in FR where the game sometimes does not advance the day if you skip the day transition too fast. In this case, magical_mace used the chapters menu to advance the day. I feel this is acceptable.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Barcelona, Catalonia

Don't worry about the end-of-day screen not showing, by "reach" I meant finishing all of the day events rather than reaching the transition from one day to another. I'll make a note in the rules that it may happen so nobody is really confused but I'm already working on similar stuff with Solo Remix rules so that's alright lmao

Category is up in Final Remix as NG+ Unrestricted, you can go ahead and submit it