So a week ago, I DM'd Tanis (A Supermod) on Discord some ideas I have for the leaderboards and I want to share them public since we have a new supermod now and I want people to share their opinions on what I think.
Adding Version Sub Categories for PC/Console/Mobile
Recently, it's been discovered that the console version of UCN is the fastest version for the "All Jumpscares" category saving possibly a minute possibly even more ? This is unfair since it gives PC/Mobile players a disadvantage. There are already version sub categories in FNAFs 1-5 so nobody has a disadvantage. Same thing should apply to UCN since Console (just like in the other FNAF game) is the fastest verison. The only category where the version doesn't matter is Fredbear% since the time is based on IGT so I'd also say remove All Jumpscares from the Misc tab
Remove the Category 95%
There really isn't a point to have this category if the category "All Challenges" already exists. It's just All Challenges but you have to do 40/20 as well to get 8,000 points for every office which in my opinion is bad category design. At least with 100%, it IS a 100% category even though it is just All Challenges with 50/20 in it. The category idea was horrible to begin with and it should be removed
Remove ItzRogue from the moderation team
I've made a forum about this in the past but Rogue has not been on Speedrun.com in 10 months without any reasoning for the inactivity on the Discord. This shows that Rogue doesn't care about moderating UCN anymore especially noting that he frequently talks in the Discord. Rogue also hasn't verified a run in over a year according to his SRC profile.
Remove Milliseconds for All Jumpscares
I've never seen the reason to have milliseconds on All Jumpscares. It's not an optimized category and there are no ties on the leaderboards currently and there most likely won't be one for a long time. Milliseconds in my opinion are only supposed to belong to either very short categories (Like Fredbear%), or very optimized categories where top times are frames away from WR (Like 5 Challenges). It doesn't really matter if milliseconds continue to stay on this category but I see it as pointless for a category like this.
New Category named "50/20 Long Nights"
In the game "Ultimate Custom Night Unlimited" which is just UCN with more addons, there's a mode called "Infinite Time" which lets you play a night until you die. First place is the person who survived 50/20 the longest for example in 5:48.5 but at the start and end of the run, you have to show that no cheats are on and every animatronic (Besides the character you death coin) is on AI 20. I've had the idea of this but on basic UCN and Tanis had told me in DMs how many 4:30s there were when talking to him about my ideas so to spice things up, you do infinite time so there are no massive ties. If the run isn't on UCN Unlimited, it gets rejected to avoid 4:30 ties. It should be a misc category if it does end up getting added.
Moderation issues with mistiming runs.
About 2 weeks ago, I frame retimed 4 runs in the "All Jumpscares" category out of boredom. Instaas 24:25, My Obsolete 25:25, Averyodos 28:35 and Stellars 29:16 and out of those 4 runs, 3 of them were not timed correctly with Stellars run being off by almost 2 seconds. I'll send what I got when frame retiming in the Discord if anyone wants proof because I don't want to make this forum messy. It doesn't really matter in All Jumpscares but in categories like 5 Challenges, it matters a lot since 2nd and 1st place are frames away. I'm worried that there are many mistimed runs and I'd like to frame retime every run (Excluding obsolete runs) but I wouldn't waste time on a game I'm not moderator in since it would be a long annoying process of DMing mods mistimes I find.
Add New Mods
We need more active mods in this game since the only active mods we have right now is Bruh, Tanis (Who has been inactive recently but is still a great mod for being the main verifier since release), and Manic though he gets banned a lot and only verifies Fredbear% runs. I'd personally love to have verifier for this game but I'm not very well known in the FNAF speedrun scene so most people probably wouldn't trust me. I do have moderation experience as a verifier for Super Mario 3D World + Bowsers Fury who frame retimes every run I verify there but that's all I will say. Bruh was a great decision to add as a moderator but I think there should still be at least 1 or 2 more verifiers or moderators.
Adding Version Sub Categories for PC/Console/Mobile
Yeah I wanted to do this and I was gonna ask tanis about this but I figured verifications are the biggest priority rn and there are some things that tanis has said are against the rules that aren't in the rules (biggest ones are that you must remove animatronics immediately after losing and that you cannot use dcoin to remove animatronics, I've asked them and am waiting on their response, also I'm operating off that what they said is the rules if not then I'll reverify the runs dw)
Remove the Category 95%
Yeahhh I mean I totally agree but I'd like to hear out the motivation to add it to begin with incase there's a good reason
Remove ItzRogue from the moderation team
I mean I see where you're coming from but they never said they were completely leaving (infact they made it seem like they might come back) and if they may come back I don't see a point to removing them, I'm open to different opinions so lmk (also talking in the discord is much different than verifying runs)
Remove Milliseconds for All Jumpscares
I just don't see the point of this at all tbh, is there an issue with ms? I don't see any reason to remove them it just takes out precision (which I already get from retiming normally) and by your own admission as soon as there is a tie to the second we have to retime every run, plus ms is a game wide setting so we'd lose precision in all fredbear runs
New Category named "50/20 Long Nights"
The issue I take with that is this is the "ucn" leaderboard not "ucn unlimited" leaderboard, imo we shouldn't add different games to a game's leaderboard
Moderation issues with mistiming runs.
Shit, hmm, how about this, I'll retime the top 5 of every category and runs that are within a couple seconds of eachother and if someone wants me to retime a run specifically, just message me somehow (preferably on here) and I'll get to it, I'm only proposing this way cause 575 is a big number lol
Add New Mods
I mean I think I can handle verifying runs on my own rn, I do it for most the rest of the series lol I can usually find time for like 30 runs in a session at most (depends on the category ofc but yk as an average I'd say it's accurate enough) that's 19.2 days (and that's not including verifying runs) and usually I get around to verifying only like once a week the only reason I'm able to do more rn is I'm recovering from a surgery atm so I'm not really doing anything else (and if you're going to point out that more mods would help retime all the runs fixing both this issue and the last I offer the fact that it took me and 3 of the greatest mods I've had the pleasure of knowing (hailoh, dark, and zombiegabriel) a long time to retime all the runs in fnaf 1 back when we first went about getting rid of loads a long time ago and plus the fact still remains that I prob won't be able to do this as frequently soon, "just add more verifiers" well then there's the issue of whom do we add? Then there's the issue of can we trust them to retime and verify properly, basically there's a lot to this issue lol)
Somethings in here prob make no sense or I stated very wrong and I think I mentioned this but I'm open to counter arguments so send them my way!
We both already agree with the first two so I don't have to say anything about them.
Remove ItzRogue from the moderation team
Yeah I can see why you'd think this. I personally think not checking the mod hub in a year for a game like this is too long but I won't argue. I don't think he should have verifier anymore but you are the supermod it's your decision.
Remove Milliseconds for All Jumpscares
I thought you could remove milliseconds from specific categories since in games like Mario 64, only some categories have milliseconds. I just don't think there should be milliseconds in All Jumpscares because it's not an insanely optimized category which in my opinion are the only categories deserving of milliseconds.
New Category named "50/20 Long Nights"
I understand your reasoning. I already knew from the start this was my weakest idea but I wanted to bring it up anyways. I was only thinking of this possibility because in games like Red Ball 1, you have to use an timer hack (Not Vanilla Red ball 1) or else the run is invalid. I 100% respect your opinion
Moderation issues with mistiming runs.
Yeah retiming the Top 5 for everything is fine (Excluding Obsolete runs). Retiming every run is just pointless especially obsolete ones and it would take forever.
Add New Mods
I only proposed this idea because I feel bad that you are the only person who verifies currently and you moderate a lot of FNAF games but if you say you are fine, that's fine. Not much else I will say about this though since I agree it will be hard to choose other people to give verifier/moderator to.
Don't feel forced to do any of these things because I make a forum about them. You're the super mod and I don't want to feel guilty about forcing a mod to do something.
"biggest ones are that you must remove animatronics immediately after losing and that you cannot use dcoin to remove animatronics" does this mean that any runs using a dcoin could get removed becuase most top runs use the dcoin?
Remove ItzRogue from the moderation team
Yeahhh, I see your point tbh, I just don't see the harm in leaving them on and it'd just be easier ig ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Remove Milliseconds for All Jumpscares
No you cannot remove them from just some categories, what sm64 does is they just put all ms as 000 so they don't show up, well I mean yeah it's not insanely optimized but that's an argument that it doesn't need ms atm and imo why should precision be something that has to be earned? Is there something wrong with having them?/genq the only reason I could see not having them is in like cookie clicker for example (using this cause ik it lol) we time via igt which doesnt have ms so it'd be pointless
Nothing to say about the last 3
Nah dw it's all good I like to have a discussion with the community to understand what'd be best, and you don't gotta feel guilty about making me do things lol having and voicing opinions isn't a problem imo
Sorry KT55, I didn't see your comment before, also OML I read tanis' message wrong lol! I missed one word but that word was a "not" and predictably changes the entire meaning of the sentence, shit I'll fix all the runs I rejected for that now that's entirely my bad I'll be honest that was just a huge blunder on my part (would've been nice if they kept the rules updated on what they said, but still my fault)
